Comments on: Breaking Mail

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By: J.Cormier

J.Cormier — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:16:55 +0000

All you Mac Addicts might despise my parochialism for this, but I just use Gmail. Simple, straightforward, and it has a one-click labeling system.

By: Scott Morrison

Scott Morrison — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:10:03 +0000

To those who say use rules to file mail when it comes in are not getting the issue. The idea of an inbox is that it provides a single point of entry where things should be processed mentally and manually in accordance to whatever organizational scheme you may use (getting things done or whatever) You want to avoid having to check X different places for unconsidered tasks (which happens when your mail has already been sorted upon receipt) and risk important msgs from being buried without being seen.

I use Mail ActOn (partly because I am the author) but mostly because I wrote it for a reason -- to mentally process mail into actionable items, things needing different responses, waiting on answers etc. I have several manually applied ActOn rules to move messages to "Action", "hold", "waiting" etc and then as I deal with different tasks in the different folders, I then file them in different archives. The ActOn keys makes this process go so much smoother. Once I get the metadata tagging and commenting of messages done for the next version, this will be even better because I can start using Smart folders in much more sophisticated ways.

btw Larry, You are my copyright guru -- Mail Act-On is open source partly because of the ideas that you discuss/advocate in various IT conversations podcasts. When things are open we innovate more, not less. Keep up the necessary and great work.

By: Scott Brenner

Scott Brenner — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:08:17 +0000

Check out

http://www.43folders.com/2005/06/mail_acton_invo.html

I think it will help your adjustment to Mail in tiger.

By: Core Networks GmbH

Core Networks GmbH — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:52:07 +0000

I prefer open source systems but apple is not too bad. Microsoft is :p

By: thilo pfennig

thilo pfennig — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:21:19 +0000

first the commet function from the main page is not reachable because it links to http://lessing.org... instead of http://www.lessing.org/

I also do not understand your problem. I do filtering with the rules of "Evolution". If somebody has the time I would suggest that the one should test the newest Linux Fedora Core 4 that runs on Macs! Evolution ist really a very strong application. it can even communicate Microsoft Exchange. If FC4 runs good, you could easily switch to a real FREE OS. I wonder why you did not allready. Don't be afraid. I am sure the GNOME people or Redhat/Fedora will be happy to help organizations like yours!!

By: Juergen Fenn

Juergen Fenn — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:42:41 +0000

I recommend Gnus for reading your mail and news. There is nothing that cannot be done in Gnus. ;-) Of course it also runs on Mac OS X.

By: Bob

Bob — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:20:52 +0000

Evolution is a great client but indeed there is no Mac version, although a Windows version is in the works.

And while technically you can run a free / open source OS on Mac PPC hardware, it's really not practical for most people. The issues that you have with Linux or FreeBSD for x86 like driver availability are ten times worse on Mac PPC. Lots of built-in hardware like wireless just isn't supported at all and you'll have to add a usb adapter. There's no accelerated 3D support at all. Bluetooth, printers, digital cameras, etc. - all spotty at best. Driver support on Linux in general is imperfect, but there are usually workarounds -- on PPC Linux, there usually aren't.

And if you do need to use anything proprietary like Flash (which, love it or hate it, is necessary to view many websites) or Skype, you're out of luck on PPC.

Ubuntu PPC, Fedora PPC, and Yellow Dog are all valiant efforts but using them as a non-techie's desktop is still mostly an exercise in masochism. If you want to run Linux on a Mac, my advice is to wait for the Intel Macs because most of these problems will disappear.

OK I've helped drag us far off topic. My apologies to the professor and everyone else.

By: Michael Carroll

Michael Carroll — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:11:14 +0000

I stopped using Rules because I lack the discipline and time to force myself to read traffic that's already been filed (particularly from listservs). So hotkey filing can be useful. What I'd love is an app that could display unread messages in two or three columns sorted by Rules (e.g. mail from within your institution in one column, mail from a white list in a second, and all other mail in the third). Is there such a feature in any existing mail clients?

By: dreww

dreww — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:02:09 +0000

i think the rest of us use filters, although the hot key idea is a good one for dealing with filter misses or new arrangments.