Comments on: Exit Valenti https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662 2002-2015 Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:32:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Adam Felson https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662#comment-5387 Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:32:14 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/08/exit_valenti.html#comment-5387 20-20 hindsight is so wonderfull. Valenti sure made a lot of predictions and none have proved correct and some have been spectacularly wrong.

The VCR hasn’t killed the movie industry.
There’s more than 3 networks.
etc.

]]> By: Alphtoo https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662#comment-5386 Sun, 08 Aug 2004 11:24:42 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/08/exit_valenti.html#comment-5386 It’s a bit hard to really blame Valenti for becoming rich and famous preying upon the ignorance and greed of politicians. And it’s hard to fault the MPAA and the RIAA for buying laws they believe will further enrich themselves. Heck, if I had their money I’d buy a few legislators and judges myself. They can really come in handy when you need them.

]]> By: steve sherman https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662#comment-5385 Wed, 04 Aug 2004 12:28:06 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/08/exit_valenti.html#comment-5385 It is more interesting to see how Jack Valenti’s replacement Dan Glickman views new technology. I know his focus will be to make it harder for me to get $1 DVDs when i’m visiting Shanghai. Glickman seems to have worked both sides of washingtion… Lets see if he thinks TIVO technology will be the downfall of mankind….

]]> By: Dave Ethington https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662#comment-5384 Wed, 04 Aug 2004 04:16:58 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/08/exit_valenti.html#comment-5384 Ah, whining – what liberals do best.

I hope you didn’t just call me a liberal. For one, I’m not. For another, it just isn’t a partisan debate. That’s the problem. Practically everyone on both the right and the left seem to be completely and utterly in thrall to the entertainment industry. And here we are, World Citizens, acting like frogs in a pot of water. The changes were gradual enough that the water will start to boil and we’ll just sit there and let it happen.

Me? I’m hopping out. You sit there and cook, Mr. Frog.

]]> By: Tim Wu https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662#comment-5383 Wed, 04 Aug 2004 01:45:11 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/08/exit_valenti.html#comment-5383 This is hardly a liberal / conservative matter: Valenti is a democrat, and was an aide to Lyndon Johnson. As he said of those days, “when you’ve sat at the feet of the Sun King, very few things impress you.”

He also said in 1964: “I sleep each night a little better, a little more confidently, because Lyndon Johnson is my president.”

I admire Valenti’s knack for memorable phrases — but as for complaining, he certainly spent alot of his career complaining about dire threats to the film industry.

Tim Wu

]]> By: Pobre Slobe https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662#comment-5382 Wed, 04 Aug 2004 01:32:19 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/08/exit_valenti.html#comment-5382 Ah, stereotyping – what conservatives do best. I’m sure you’d be less vocal if your side employed rational argument once in a while. It’s okay. I understand. I think. I bet it’s nice down there with your blissful ignorance.

]]> By: Rico Suave https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662#comment-5381 Tue, 03 Aug 2004 22:57:38 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/08/exit_valenti.html#comment-5381 Ah, whining – what liberals do best. I’m sure you’d be less vocal if your side won once in a while. It’s ok. I understand. I care. I bet it’s nice up there in the clouds.

]]> By: Karl https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662#comment-5380 Tue, 03 Aug 2004 17:32:54 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/08/exit_valenti.html#comment-5380 To me Jack Valenti will always be the guy who made no freakin sense what so ever. He is extremely inconsistent. If you read more of his comments on the VCR, he blasted it for having a recording feature, a fast forward feature, and a rewind feature. After all that, he slipped up and said he and his family use the VCR all the time, and wasn’t afraid that the MPAA could go after him. But everyone else shouldn’t be doing what Jack is doing.

]]> By: Dave Ethington https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662#comment-5379 Mon, 02 Aug 2004 22:12:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/08/exit_valenti.html#comment-5379 And in the face of this onslaught of copyright extreme-ism, we try to make change based on moderation and balance. No wonder we’re losing this war. Personally, I think the only strategy left is revolution. Completely throw out copyright laws and thoroughly ignore them. Then let the content owners come back to the bargaining table to renegotiate.

]]> By: Matthew Rimmer https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2662#comment-5378 Mon, 02 Aug 2004 22:03:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/08/exit_valenti.html#comment-5378 Dear Tim Wu,
One of the lasting legacies of Jack Valenti will of course be his push to internationalise the copyright term extension and digital copyright protections.

The Australian Parliament today is on the verge of passing the United States-Australia Free Trade Agreement. A key feature of the Agreement is a copyright term extension – pushed by the Motion Picture Association of America.

The Senate Select Committee has released its report on the free trade agreement:
http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/freetrade_ctte/report/summary/report.pdf

The Senate Committee has supported the agreement – albeit with reservations about some of the sections, including the IP chapter.

The IP Chapter is here: http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/freetrade_ctte/report/summary/ch03.pdf

The changes include:

* a 20-year prospective extension to the copyright term
* US style protection of technological protection measures and electronic management information
* US style regime for the regulation of internet service providers
* protection of temporary copies
* economic and moral rights for performers in respect of sound recordings
* greater civil and criminal remedies for copyright owners

Regards,
Matthew Rimmer

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