Comments on: words would not do https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672 2002-2015 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:06:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: how to win a lottery https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672#comment-26321 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:06:46 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/words_would_not_do.html#comment-26321 I do trust all of the ideas you have presented for your post. They are very convincing and will certainly work. Still, the posts are too brief for newbies. Could you please extend them a little from next time? Thank you for the post.

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By: staypuftman https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672#comment-26320 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:03:41 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/words_would_not_do.html#comment-26320 @Michael Allen

How can a kid that young conceptualize what makes a good president? Come on now, he’s just doing what his parents told him to do.

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By: Andrew A. Gill https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672#comment-26319 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:47:28 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/words_would_not_do.html#comment-26319 Say, have you seen these images? They’re kinda similar to the one you posted.

http://www.aprilwinchell.com/2008/11/05/tuesday/

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By: Mark Rizik https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672#comment-26318 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:06:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/words_would_not_do.html#comment-26318 >>From Steve Baba: “The problem is when people like Lessig try to use it (twice) for a political message when a similar picture could have been taken at a McCain or any other (football) rally and virtually no kids that age are mature or educated enough to be politically well informed.”>>

I don’t think Mr. Lessig means to suggest, “Even this child has enough political awareness to support Obama over McCain!” I think we can agree that, if this boy were raised by Republican parents, he would just as eagerly be holding a McCain sign.

I believe Mr. Lessig is more interested in the symbolic value of the photo. What does it depict? A solemn-faced youth rising up above a crowd of casual and smirking adults, to support a cause that he believes in.

Like it or not, there are real commonalities between this picture and Mr. Obama’s campaign. Mr. Obama is young. His supporters are young. Mr. Obama is solemnly idealistic, and has distinguished himself even from fellow Democrats by his refusal to “fight dirty” and his determination to root out corruption in the political process. He is the “solemn-faced child.” His fellow Congress members are the older, casual-faced, smirking crowd: casual to the corrupt status quo by long exposure, and smirking that anyone would question it.

Perhaps this photo says, “The spirit of youth is to solemnly believe that something is right and strive for that, rather than settle for the smarmy, ends-driven, self-interested compromises that have dominated politics for so long.” Mr. Obama showed such integrity when, rather than condemn Rev. Wright, he gave his More Perfect Union speech. Or perhaps the photo is not about the nature of youth, but rather the fact that our youth are not going to settle for the corrupt politics of generations past. Certainly, photographs of the crowds at Mr. Obama’s speeches against corruption bear out this vision of our youth. Either way, this photo resonates deeply with Mr. Obama, his campaign, and his stated ideals.

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By: Steve Baba https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672#comment-26317 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:03:36 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/words_would_not_do.html#comment-26317 Joe: It’s an amazing good and cool shot which I and most have no problem with. The problem is when people like Lessig try to use it (twice) for a political message when a similar picture could have been taken at a McCain or any other (football) rally and virtually no kids that age are mature or educated enough to be politically well informed. Perhaps Lessig is extending the, “wisdom of crowds,” to the, “wisdom of kids.”

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By: Rob https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672#comment-26316 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:26:29 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/words_would_not_do.html#comment-26316 Wow. You people need to stop arguing over this picture. He’s obviously not even a kid. Look how high he stands above everyone else in the crowd. He is obviously much older and more mature (physically and intellectually) than everyone else in the room.

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By: Mike R https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672#comment-26315 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:13:05 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/words_would_not_do.html#comment-26315 Joe,

I didn’t read too much into the photo. I just think it’s an amazingly good shot.

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By: Dan https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672#comment-26313 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:08:53 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/words_would_not_do.html#comment-26313 All I can say is that John McCain himself gave an entirely gracious concession speech that would serve as a terrific example for his disciples.

After two years of being inhabited by imposters (including the hellspawn of Atwater/Rove: Schmidt), perhaps the senator from Arizona will finally find his best stride back in the senate where he belongs.

Let’s Move On. The future will wait no longer for us. It is here, and it is now, and it is full of hope once more.

That’s what that picture is all about.

PS: Can we finally put the last nails in the coffin of Voodoo Economics, once and for all?

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By: Michael Allen living in Seattle - Come say hi.... https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672#comment-26312 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:22:47 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/words_would_not_do.html#comment-26312 Steve, John, you should just both go away.
What this picture shows is future generations supporting the new president. The man who can lead us into the 21st century.
Let go of the “old rich white man” syndrome and join us.

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By: Joe Crimmings https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3672#comment-26311 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:32:05 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/words_would_not_do.html#comment-26311 The interesting thing about a photograph and art in general is that a piece gets put out in to public view and everyone interprets it under their own precondition. Is this photo taken to show that only naive children are Obama supporters or was it to show the power of youth even if they aren’t allowed to vote or was it taken because I had been sitting on a metal bleacher for more than an hour and thought, “hey, that’s a cool shot.” I never expected it to get the legs that is has and I have had several people voice positive and negative reactions to the photo. I welcome any interpretation because it helps others see different meanings in the photograph.

So, Steve & John.. Sure, it shows a naive and/or brainwashed child to you. But to others it could signify something more.

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