Comments on: The Anti-Aristocrats (our Framers) v1 https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826 2002-2015 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: طراحی سایت https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826#comment-33155 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:53:00 +0000 http://www.lessig.org/2013/06/the-anti-aristocrats-our-framers-v1/#comment-33155 so Helpful . Fortunate me I discovered your web site…thanks
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By: Toby Grytafey https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826#comment-33154 Sun, 21 Jul 2013 01:11:51 +0000 http://www.lessig.org/2013/06/the-anti-aristocrats-our-framers-v1/#comment-33154 There’s lots of aristocracy talk at the Constitutional Convention & @tweetthedebates. I can start hashtagging it a certain way for you if that would be helpful.
The best quotes are from Gouverneur Morris, though his solution is to give the rich their own House of Lords (else they’d take over the rest).

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By: Paul G https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826#comment-33153 Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:57:12 +0000 http://www.lessig.org/2013/06/the-anti-aristocrats-our-framers-v1/#comment-33153 It’s so funny that we are so culturally conditioned to side skirt the subject of guaranteed income as a knee jerk reaction, without a moment given to consider it’s validity as an element in the endeavors we gather here to discuss.
Yes, it’s not a part of Lessig’s platform. The poster essentially asks, why isn’t it?
Is it because there is fear of being burdened with meaningless labels like ‘socialist”, or that he truly believes it has no place in a solution?
Meanwhile, the solutions elude everyone… including Lessig himself.
What will we do in a 90% automated world? You got to know it’s coming fast.
And wasn’t the whole point of automation to eliminate the burden from humanity and set it free?
Or was it always a ploy to make a hyper rich elite hell bent on destroying the environment with ever more ferocity and efficiency? What would be the point of that? What a disgusting waste of technology.
Will the crusty ancient jobs rhetoric still have resonance when that time comes?
This is like climate change. Everyone seems open to any solution, so long as it looks and sounds a lot like the ones we have now.

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By: topdiablo3 https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826#comment-33152 Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:20:26 +0000 http://www.lessig.org/2013/06/the-anti-aristocrats-our-framers-v1/#comment-33152 Of course, Martin Luther King, Jr. also came to the same conclusion and announced it in his speech to the Southern Christian Leadership Conference in Atlanta GA on August 16, 1967. Was this the real reason why he was assassinated?

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By: Dbaig https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826#comment-33151 Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:45:59 +0000 http://www.lessig.org/2013/06/the-anti-aristocrats-our-framers-v1/#comment-33151 First of all thank you Lessing, for choosing this quote. Patrick Henry did a lot during the movement for independence. Aristocratic and elite have always been dominating not the dominated ones. Thought provoking post this is.
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By: hasan https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826#comment-33150 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:10:56 +0000 http://www.lessig.org/2013/06/the-anti-aristocrats-our-framers-v1/#comment-33150 GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOD

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By: Lee Diamond https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826#comment-33149 Sun, 16 Jun 2013 07:20:45 +0000 http://www.lessig.org/2013/06/the-anti-aristocrats-our-framers-v1/#comment-33149 Perhaps Patrick Henry’s concern is valuable in that we see the advantages of wealth in running for office were a concern from early on in America’s development.
The subject of guaranteed income is not really relevant to this discussion because such a policy would come in the form of a Living Wage. We cannot make society perfect. We cannot create the opportunity for every American to run for office. It is not practical.

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By: Lee Diamond https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826#comment-33148 Sun, 16 Jun 2013 07:15:01 +0000 http://www.lessig.org/2013/06/the-anti-aristocrats-our-framers-v1/#comment-33148 In reply to Frank L Goodwins.

As I understand Wikipedia, you are free to go to the site and make appropriate edits, corrections etc if you can document your information.

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By: Tate Rehmet https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826#comment-33147 Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:00:13 +0000 http://www.lessig.org/2013/06/the-anti-aristocrats-our-framers-v1/#comment-33147 Like others have said, I find in interesting that Henry was weary of starting an aristocracy, when in fact there was already an established ruling class in this country at the time. What he said about a poor man having no chance to be elected over a rich man in England was in fact equally true in America as well.

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By: Connie Heermann https://archives.lessig.org/?p=28713718826#comment-33146 Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:13:45 +0000 http://www.lessig.org/2013/06/the-anti-aristocrats-our-framers-v1/#comment-33146 Patrick Henry was not a socialist. I do not believe Mr. Lessig’s proposition advocates basic income guarantees as the solution to preserving our democracy.

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