Comments on: [sigh]: mp3.com, we hardly knew you https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303 2002-2015 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:43:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: MP3 Man https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303#comment-3176 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:43:45 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/08/sigh_mp3com_we_hardly_knew_you.html#comment-3176 MP3 is the way to go! I use the lame mp3 encoder as a personal preference. Cakewalk is also very useful. When I get bored with music, I like to meet new people at this totally free american personals site. No membership fees, means this site is totally free, just like the lame mp3 encoder!

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By: Sander van Zoest https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303#comment-3175 Thu, 14 Aug 2003 06:47:11 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/08/sigh_mp3com_we_hardly_knew_you.html#comment-3175 Ever since the days of the IPO the mission of MP3.com has changed. Suddenly the only thing that mattered was shareholder value. Artists, who? Those were sad times. I really thought we had a good thing going. Maybe not necessarily for shareholders, but we gave artists an easy platform for internet presence. It has been more then 3 years since the IPO, I am not surprised.

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By: Shmoo of Electric Gypsy https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303#comment-3174 Sat, 09 Aug 2003 12:32:14 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/08/sigh_mp3com_we_hardly_knew_you.html#comment-3174 Electric Gypsy left mp3.com a while back too… and for the very reasons others have already pointed out.

As for the whole p2p/copyright/RIAA issue, I think we should just have a yearly renewable licence to upload/download any and all copyright material without restriction per internet device (ie computer or whatnot) obtainable by the OWNER of said device for a reasonable ($25 bucks per year or so?) fee.
Copyright holders (even us who are independent of the “industry”) could register our works with a central agency (similar in ways to ASCAP/BMI etc., hey, why not Creative Commons?) that would collect and distribute the money based on a percentage of uploads/downloads by popularity.
Devil is in the details, and it would have to be done fairly. Maybe our government needs to step in and force this solution upon us all.

Just an Idea.

Support Local and Independent Music!

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By: Me https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303#comment-3173 Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:34:43 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/08/sigh_mp3com_we_hardly_knew_you.html#comment-3173 Who cares about MP3.com?

No artists of note left;
They now charge the ARTISTS for providing the resource they rely on;
They obviously have no clue what a Creative Commons license is, nor did they pay any attention to the fact that it’s free.

Pass them up, pass the word that they suck now more than ever before, and encourage artists to find someplace better.

Actually I’d almost suggest sending all their artists a primer on “better places to be than MP3.com”, you’d be doing them all a great favor.

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By: James Day https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303#comment-3172 Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:45:55 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/08/sigh_mp3com_we_hardly_knew_you.html#comment-3172 I’ve emailed Lawrence Lessig about a possible approach to this, since I have the resources to at least get it started and handle the inevitable quick slashdotting.

How does free distribution for CC licenses and voluntary donations to a pool, distributed according to popularity sound? Money out of the pool to the artists, hosting company, site, bandwidth and Creative Commons, trying to ensure that the artists get a greater percentage than they can get in other ways… and low enough minimum donation amounts so fans can donate and give artists money at levels well below the current per track and CD prices for online distribution. That’s what I have in mind. Not sure yet if it can happen. Not entirely up to me but I can try to get it started.

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By: Brian https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303#comment-3171 Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:00:17 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/08/sigh_mp3com_we_hardly_knew_you.html#comment-3171 Can we get the EFF or someone to start a Non-Profit to host such a site for free music? If I had the money I would start a server to host all the music that people wanted to put out with CC Licenses.

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By: Brian Flemming https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303#comment-3170 Fri, 08 Aug 2003 05:45:05 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/08/sigh_mp3com_we_hardly_knew_you.html#comment-3170 “Indeed, if you count the number of �free licenses� that we�ve given away, and you calculate their value the way the RIAA calculates the cost of music piracy, Creative Commons has given more than $100 billion to the creative community. “

Hee-hee. Great way to put it.

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By: Tom Barger https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303#comment-3169 Fri, 08 Aug 2003 01:28:27 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/08/sigh_mp3com_we_hardly_knew_you.html#comment-3169 Professor Lessig, MP3.com has had zero relevance to musicians for at least two years. I suspect you received a robo-response. They have been for quite some time a floating shipwreck, and not worth the bandwidth you committed in response. I am surprised that you took the time. Next time ask me.

By the way, even in the Gilded Era of Michael Robertson’s snake oil, I wasn’t sufficiently impressed to participate.

The paralysis in the transition to new media has disastrously impacted the careers of Flash artists, marketing peeps, video directors et al. We are three years into an era of starvation, lockout and attrition. Those of us who wait out the industry “creative labor” freeze are badly served by blanket cliches from the EFF regarding “Hollywood entertainment cartel.”

NO ONE KNOWS MORE THAN US that the potential era of prosperity was blasted into oblivion by the compensation packages of top echelon media executives. Can you say “R.I.P?” What consolation can we offer to thunsung and unlamented category of motivated marketing, graphics and promotion people who were sacrificed to cost-scutting convergence. Downsizing those who loved music and chose to work within the label model.

Your best friends at CC are the artists. 30,000 at CD Baby and 25,000 at Just Plain Folks. Your pals who are EFF San Francisco elitists need to listen mo’ bettah.

TOM B.

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By: Evan https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303#comment-3168 Fri, 08 Aug 2003 00:02:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/08/sigh_mp3com_we_hardly_knew_you.html#comment-3168 Ben–got a link? I’d like to read the details on that story.

If someone can pick up mp3.com on the cheap and do it right, that’d be a nice thing.

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By: Ben https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2303#comment-3167 Thu, 07 Aug 2003 22:55:32 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/08/sigh_mp3com_we_hardly_knew_you.html#comment-3167 It will be interesting to see if something like pb sugegsts grows now that MP3.Com staff were dismissed en mass last week and mp3.com is being sold off (hopefully without the lawyers 😉 )

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