Comments on: gifts from the other side https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066 2002-2015 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:53:05 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Decnavda https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066#comment-12298 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:53:05 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/09/gifts_from_the_other_side.html#comment-12298 I love the arguments this sets up when Republicans run the government. If George Bush does something well, this proves that Republicans are effective, and therefor we should vote for Republicans. If George Bush screws up, this proves that government is ineffective, and therefor we should vote for Republicans. It’s like the argument for tax cuts. If the ecconomy is doing well, we should give people their money back by cutting taxes. If the ecconomy tanks, we should stimulate it by cutting taxes. What we believe is proven correct no matter what happens!

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By: Zennie https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066#comment-12297 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:40:53 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/09/gifts_from_the_other_side.html#comment-12297 Oh…On the matter of Government and conservatives like those at Fox, John Kenneth Galbraith wrote it best:

“Republicans have the singular distinction of accusing government of being incompetent, and when they take office, doing everything they can to make it so.”

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By: Zennie https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066#comment-12296 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:37:06 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/09/gifts_from_the_other_side.html#comment-12296 Hi,
I watched CNN. I decided when Katrina struck to keep my eyes turned toward CNN, and not Fox. I don’t take Fox seriously at all, except for the danger it poses to the maintenance of good journalism on television.

By contrast, CNN has detailed coverage and a racially and ethnically diverse field of reporters. I think the coverage of Katrina was their finest moment, and also proves the logic of The Situation Room format.

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By: Anonymous https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066#comment-12295 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:38:16 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/09/gifts_from_the_other_side.html#comment-12295

What I am asking the readers is: What would have been adequate?

How about we use the tsunami in a 3rd world country like Indonesia as a benchmark for comparing effectiveness of rescue/recovery?

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By: some guy https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066#comment-12294 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:00:41 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/09/gifts_from_the_other_side.html#comment-12294 one more comment:
if you were the president of the united states that fatefull tuesday, what would you have done? Would you continue with your vaction for three more days?
nuff said

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By: some guy https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066#comment-12293 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:54:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/09/gifts_from_the_other_side.html#comment-12293 Jardinero1, one thing that was lacking was imagination.

They said it was too dangerous for individuals to go in with there boats and help.

So, they should have organised an armadda of boats. Every boat owner in the area should have been mobilized, equiped with food and medical suplies, and sent in.

This would not be that hard to organize. i am sure that everyone who can afford a boat, can alos afford an internet connection and a cell phone.

What this gov’t consistently fails to do, is utilize its most precious and abundant resource: the american people.

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By: poptones https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066#comment-12292 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:30:54 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/09/gifts_from_the_other_side.html#comment-12292 I do know this – from many friends on the gulf coast in Mississippi AND from the local news coverage here in MS: there is STILL very little federal assistance showing up in the hardest hit areas in MS. You can blame corrupt Louisiana politicians on the NO situation if you like; I’ve only been there a couple of times and even then we almost became statistics of the local (corrupt) police department that is now infamous for impounding vehicles and pocketing the auction fees – but here in MS we have a governor who is a FOB, a political lobbyist whose entire career in this state came from the deep pockets in Shrub’s pary backing him in the last race.

Yet you don’t even see the governor complaining about it. All he does is parrot whatever shrub’s saying and praise the Federal agencies that are “here to help.” But I can put you in touch with many people who’s homes were damaged or destroyed by the hurricane and some of them will tell you they’ve not seen the first federal aid worker.

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By: Jardinero1 https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066#comment-12291 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:34:21 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/09/gifts_from_the_other_side.html#comment-12291 What I am asking the readers is: What would have been adequate?

Evacuate the Superdome by Friday instead of Saturday. Start the evacuation on Tuesday instead of Wednesday? (No evacuation was requested by Nagin until Tuesday.) There is a lot of complaining, generally, about what a “disaster” the federal response to the disaster was. But, there are very few specific instances that anyone can name, with any veracity, where the feds could have been bettered.

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By: jadams01@sprynet.com https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066#comment-12290 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:25:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/09/gifts_from_the_other_side.html#comment-12290 Jardinero1,

I’m willing (actually, I’m wanting very badly) to believe your story, and even to accept that it may have more than anecdotal value, but it does not jibe with what we heard from the guys at the top of FEMA, namely Brown and Chertoff.

I don’t doubt that there were elements in FEMA which responded beautifully, as well as could be expected, but given the confusion which we saw reigning at the top of FEMA, I believe the overall effort was sadly lacking.

This is consistent with the story you tell–and good for your aunt and her team! On the evidence available to us so far, she and her team outperformed her organization, or at the very least, outperformed her organization’s management.

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By: Jardinero1 https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3066#comment-12289 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:41:16 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/09/gifts_from_the_other_side.html#comment-12289 This is anecdotal but accurate: My aunt is a Pediatric ER physician who was part of a FEMA team flown to a staging area in Houston the Saturday before the Hurricane hit. On Monday morning, after the storm passed, her team and many, many others were en route to New Orleans. She started work in the Superdome as soon as she arrived on Monday. How much sooner could they have arrived? Her team closed up shop on Thursday and transferred to Baton Rouge where they ran a clinic. They transferred because their work was done in the Superdome. This while Geraldo was crying out front. The last evacuees left on Saturday.

The feds serve at the pleasure and request of the local authorities. They facilitate and enhance the local plan for the disaster. In this case, the local authorities were so corrupt and inept that the Feds had to make it up for them. I live in Houston and there are numerous transplants here from Louisiana. Nobody I know from New Orleans is the least bit surprised at how the community disintegrated during this crisis.

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