Comments on: Shepard Fairey's AP troubles https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743 2002-2015 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 10:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: طراحی سایت https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743#comment-27945 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 10:41:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2009/02/shepard_faireys_ap_troubles.html#comment-27945 Hi… i like browsing in your web site ..Thanks
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By: Bax https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743#comment-27944 Fri, 01 May 2009 20:54:02 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2009/02/shepard_faireys_ap_troubles.html#comment-27944 I think people should be critical of Shep Fairey. I like the response this guy made to Sheps AP response. I agree with him that if Obey Giant Art Inc. wins its case again the AP it will open the doors for other companies that want to use photographers or any other art images. Stop painting his out to be a case against a big mean media source vs. a little artist. The case involves Fairey AND Obey Giant Art Inc.! A company!

http://www.myartspace.com/blog/2009/03/my-response-to-shepard-fairey.html

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By: Jenn https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743#comment-27943 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:40:52 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2009/02/shepard_faireys_ap_troubles.html#comment-27943 AP filed their Answer and Counterclaim -here’s an excerpt:

“58. Fairey could have selected from any one of countless images of
President Obama in making his posters and other merchandise, or simply drawn him from life or taken his own photograph to use for his posters and other merchandise. Instead, Fairey was drawn to the unique qualities of this particular photograph, made distinctive by Mr. Garcia’s creative and artistic input, including (1) his deliberate selection of a specific moment in time to capture President Obama’s expression; (2) his choice in using a particular type of lens and light for optimal impact; and (3) his careful and unique – 13 – composition of the photograph. These facts, combined with Mr. Garcia’s experience, skill and judgment, resulted in the creation of a distinctive image of a unique moment and expression of President Obama.
59. The Infringing Works do not alter any of the distinctive characteristics that make the Obama Photo so striking — from the selection of subject matter, to the composition, to the exacting details of the photo. All the recognizable elements remain completely and unmistakably intact in the Infringing Works, including the angle and slant of President Obama’s head, and his gaze and expression; the contrast, focus, and depth of field of the photograph; as well as the shadow lines created by the lighting in the original photo. Fairey even used the red, white and blue flag imagery that Mr. Garcia worked to capture in the background of The AP’s photo.”

For me – this is the heart and soul of their argument. I’ve heard many people say the photograph is generic, just one of many of Obama. But I have to disagree – Fairey, as an artist, saw the unique artistic merit in the photograph. That’s why he not only used it, but all but duplicated it. And besides – I thought the idea wasn’t to qualify art, but rather to protect artistic expression. If it was an individual trying to protect their assets, rather than a big company like AP, people wouldn’t be giving Fairey so much breadth. According to the claim, Fairey profits from the reproduction and distribution of the infringing works have exceeded $400,000. He sells a hoodie w/ the Obama image for $60.00 on his website. I just cannot see Fair Use in this case. WHY OH WHY is the Fair Use Project helping Fairey???!!!

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By: Art Snoop https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743#comment-27942 Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:57:42 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2009/02/shepard_faireys_ap_troubles.html#comment-27942 An artist going by the name of The Phantom is calling out Shepard Fairey to a cage match concerning these issues. http://citizenla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=587

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By: Jenn https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743#comment-27941 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:13:18 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2009/02/shepard_faireys_ap_troubles.html#comment-27941 I agree with you Mel, Sam I am and DXO! I’m also surprised to see the Fair Use Project supporting Fairey. I read that even the Obama camp chose not adopt the poster as they were concerned about copyright issues.

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By: patent https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743#comment-27940 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:39:51 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2009/02/shepard_faireys_ap_troubles.html#comment-27940 thanksk you marka patent..

“The Copyright Act of 1976 protects published works that are “fixed” – I wonder if by publishing something on the Internet in a form that is inherently not fixed, does this negate copyright protection?”

Unfortunately this argument is essentially foreclosed by precedent which establishes that even a copy held ephemerally in RAM for the purposes of making a machine function is “fixation” for the purposes of the statute. (MAI Systems Corp v. Peak Computer, Inc. from the 9th Circuit most clearly).

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By: DXO https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743#comment-27939 Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:44:53 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2009/02/shepard_faireys_ap_troubles.html#comment-27939 The Fair Use Project and anyone else who wants to fight for sane copyright law should stay as far away from Fairey as possible.

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By: Stance https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743#comment-27938 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:27:54 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2009/02/shepard_faireys_ap_troubles.html#comment-27938 Shepard Fairey has shown his true colors. I read the SuperTouch article and it shows how stupid his supporters are. No one is going to pay for that book just to make the connections that Fairey should have been able to make without it! If he is gong to support fair use he should accept that others are going to use his work and pay him homage in the same way he claims to pay homage to Rene Mederos and other minority artists he has stolen from without giving credit where credit is due! People compare him to Warhol but forget that Warhol used images that people recognized. He did not try to conceal what he was doing like Fairey does.

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By: sandy https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743#comment-27937 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:22:50 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2009/02/shepard_faireys_ap_troubles.html#comment-27937 When somebody loses their job, their first reaction is generally to look for another one. The obvious rationale is that because of the vast amount of experience and expertise developed over the years working at a particular endeavor, the skills and abilities are immediately applicable in the same position at another firm. In the past this may have been true, but what happens when all of the firms in a particular industry are hit by the same recession? If companies within a particular industry are faced with the same economic challenges, they will all most likely be taking the same approach – reducing costs by laying off people.

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By: Steve Baba https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3743#comment-27936 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:41:12 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2009/02/shepard_faireys_ap_troubles.html#comment-27936 “If Fairey seems to have skirted the edges of propriety, can we blame him?”

Yes, something about the rule of law seems to be important.

Might be nice if a copyright lawyer would explain transformative use to these amateur experts, that changing every pixel is not a transformative get out of jail card, (all but mechanical copying changes every pixel or sound byte) rather than pontificating on issues out of his area of expertise.

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