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By: jim https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2870#comment-8754 Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:11:57 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/12/the_alien_and_sedition_acts_of.html#comment-8754 Ok, it is three years later, but I want to correct a one inaccuracy in this post:

>> But in 1798 the United States entered into a treaty with England that infuriated the French.

No. You are referring to the Jay Treaty, which was signed in 1794 and went into effect in early 1796. The main reason it infuriated the French is that the Directory was hoping for war between the US and Britain, which the treaty averted. And the treaty infuriated the anti-British, pro-French Republicans almost as much as the French.

I realize it is just a blog post, but you massively over-simplified the causes of the Quasi-war with France. The Jay Treaty was only one element that contributed to the growing suspicion and hostility on both sides. The Citizen Genet incident, the XYZ affair, and, above all, French attacks on US merchant ships that were trading with the British were the more prominent factors.

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By: irrelevent https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2870#comment-8753 Thu, 03 May 2007 23:53:58 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/12/the_alien_and_sedition_acts_of.html#comment-8753 actually i do think it compares to the prestent, because i have to do a social studies project on the question what is the patriot act and how dose it compare to the alien sedition act and obviuosly it compares alot!

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By: Jim https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2870#comment-8752 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:33:38 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/12/the_alien_and_sedition_acts_of.html#comment-8752 Read the Sedition Act of 1798 if you want to know how full of shit this blog author is. Its very clear the need was to create a Unified Country. The founders were by all measures of todays standards ULTRA conservatives. Today they would have been branded as Far Right Wing NEO CONS. They did not want to set up an environment in which the King of England or any other country for that matter, could get agents of their foreign Government involved in our affairs, giving them the ability to torpedo the formation of our union from within.

Hopefully most people reading this have lived through this very environment just going through High School. Can you imagine what would happen to anyone in High School who openly rooted against their own school teams(I can see them using liberal rhetoric, Im a real school pride person because I speak against our school weeeeeee! what a loser!…how long would they last, before being beaten mercilessly by every athlete, and joined in by every person in the school who wore school colors for one event or another. Its called Team/School spirit. You would never hear them say Down with our school, we suck…but this is the every day mantra of the liberals..every single day. And they claim thats patriotism…what a bunch of losers.

I have a prediction, one day all these seditious bastard liberals will go too far, and they will meet with a messy end. Its the liberals who want to take company profits, Its the liberals who want to redistribute wealth, Its the liberals who want to take your constitution right to bear arms away..the very amendment put in place so We The People could keep our elected officials in check…Dont forget our founders fought with the country they fled from…they spilled blood to get these rights…and libs want to take them all away…they are nothing more than socialists…by definition. No Socicialist nation has ever come close to the succusses of free enterprise and the United States of Americas capaitalist society..ever!
People who know who our founders were, brave warrior soldiers, not afraid to fight a WAR (unlike my pussy liberal friends, who live in an alternate reality in which no war should ever exist)…Hint: Not a single nation on the planet came into being without WAR. it is the nature of things, and liberals are able to be ignorant of that..the FACTS.

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By: Alex https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2870#comment-8751 Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:53:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/12/the_alien_and_sedition_acts_of.html#comment-8751 To max

“OK, correction to my previous correction of Meghan: the Patriot Act was Passed in late October. That means Congress had the ability to debate it for a month and a half, not two months. Since Congress is in charge of its own schedule, I’m sure that debate lasted for a while. Bush’s comments were meant to keep campaigning congressmen on their toes. Yes, the election was a year away, but some campaigning was going on.”

Youll need to understand that unless the act was already drawn up BEFORE 9/11 that they needed some time to write it as well. Parts of it obviously seem to come from acts that have been attempted to be passed over the last 20 years that were deemed ‘unconstitutional’ but if you were to say that none of it came from outside sources, then you are telling me that they managed to put together a hundred peoples minds on a singular purpose, and wrote 342 pages of lawyer speak ammending a list of atricles as long as my arm, as well as adding a few extra powers to the president. Then got it passed in only 43 days?

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By: Benjamin Rosenbaum https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2870#comment-8750 Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:24:24 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/12/the_alien_and_sedition_acts_of.html#comment-8750 Ed, that’s a good point, and I wasn’t arguing that the Patriot Act is nakedly and solely partisan in the manner of the A & S acts. But history and the courts have not condemned the A & S acts only for being partisan; they have also condemned them for being antithetical to the spirit of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and liberty. In that regard I think the analogy holds, and in that regard it is irrelevant whether one party or two support legislation designed to destroy civil liberties, create a climate of intimidation and centralized control, stifle dissent, and remove all limits on the power of the executive.

It’s also clear that much of the Patriot Act and its implementation has little to do with terrorism, but is aimed at other issues, like economic protectionism — Indian computer science grad students and Mexican day laborers seem unusal groups to target in an attempt to decrease terrorism.

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By: Geof Stone https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2870#comment-8749 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:52:59 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/12/the_alien_and_sedition_acts_of.html#comment-8749 Reply to Alex:

Actually, Jefferson’s party was the “Democratic Republican” party. It evolved into the Democratic Party. The Federalist Party crashed after the 1800 election, but its remnants became the Whigs and then rather indirectly the Republicans. Thus, Jefferson’s party ultimately became the Democratic Party of Stephen Douglas, and the party of Adams and Hamilton ultimately became the Republican Party of Abraham Lincoln. Sort of.

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