Comments on: me@charlie rose https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679 2002-2015 Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:47:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: oliver https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679#comment-26490 Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:47:11 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/mecharlie_rose.html#comment-26490 Re: Money interest being “primary” and ignorance or confusion being somehow secondary to the misguiding of public policy, let’s not be hierarchical about it. Just because certain biology breakthroughs may have awaited certain physics breakthroughs that awaited certain mathematics breakthroughs, etc etc, doesn’t make any field of inquiry inferior or subordinate to any other. Maybe nascent revolutionaries have rightly judged certain fields as being “where the action is” or “ripe for discovery” on occasion, but those judgments each were right for a time and a context and a person, not absolutes. Likewise, a person who’s generated great and celebrated political ideas (LL & CC) and sees politics unmoved by it maybe rightly will judge politics and corruption to be where the breakthrough will occur. To call it “primary” though is being over-humble or maybe politically correct. How far would Lenin have gotten without Marx?

]]>
By: Spoom https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679#comment-26489 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:24:16 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/mecharlie_rose.html#comment-26489 Professor,

I too believe that currently copyright is a useful tool for promoting the arts and sciences, and innovation in general. Where we perhaps differ is whether it deserves a place in the economy in, say, fifty years. If digital copying makes creating and sharing a copy of a work a zero-cost action, how then does one make the argument that we should be imposing artificial restrictions on people such that they have to follow a set of rules handed down from the content producer?

One could argue that the content has a value and that value should be protected. I agree that content is valuable, however, laws protecting it are doomed to failure due to not only the population that simply wishes to get something for nothing, but also those who want to reuse the work for their own useful creation.

I wonder if you’ve looked at proposals such as the Street Performer Protocol or the Digital Art Auction. Both allow content producers to generate revenue from their works from the populace as a whole (perhaps your ‘patron’ as mentioned in the interview, but the widest one possible: everyone). I haven’t seen too many people using them thus far, which leads me to believe that there is something about them that doesn’t fill the niche that copyright serves currently… the only thing I can think of is residuals, or continuing per-item sales. But again, if copying is a zero-cost transaction, why should a user have to pay the content producer to perform an action which costs both of them nothing?

Anyway, I’m curious what you (and others) think of these types of proposals, and possibly ways to fix them.

]]>
By: Tags https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679#comment-26488 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:43:50 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/mecharlie_rose.html#comment-26488 Do you think you might be able to facilitate the creation of a database of “fair” contract templates that can be mashed-up and fuel a return to contracts that are actually fair? This could become a trusted resource analogous to Consumer Reports.

]]>
By: Tags https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679#comment-26487 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:40:17 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/mecharlie_rose.html#comment-26487 I was mightily impressed when I saw this interview on the CR website. I particularly enjoyed your concise description of how George Lucas’s “people” arranged it so that anyone who created a mash-up on his site relinquished their rights to what they synthesized to Lucas.

To be honest, I thought that the troops would be withdrawn from Iraq after GW Bush clicked “I Agree” on some ersatz terrorist website that stipulated on page 67 that the troops be removed.

Today, we live in an environment where voluminous and one-sided contracts that no one has time to read need to be clicked immediately or at least are portrayed to the naive as having to be clicked without delay.

]]>
By: Jardinero1 https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679#comment-26486 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:40:02 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/mecharlie_rose.html#comment-26486 The problem is that we have gone from being a republic to being a democracy with majority rule. Federal funding of candidates and more regulation of campaigns will not change that essential fact. Instead of placing limits on what candidates and congressmen can do, we should place limits on what government can do.

Remember it is democracy and the will of the majority which gave us the current president, the current congress, these stupid wars, and a federal bureaucracy with no respect for the law which it enforces. Less democracy and a restoration of republican principles is the solution.

]]>
By: FK https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679#comment-26485 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:31:22 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/mecharlie_rose.html#comment-26485 This is what you (we) are up against:

“[because] the name of the game is money, and the fact is they [members of Congress] still largely depend on lobbyists for the money to bulk up their campaigns.” [Leon Panetta quoted in the NYT ( http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/25/washington/25lobby.html?hp)

The quote illustrates perfectly (and depressingly) the attitude problem you are talking about: this is how it is so this is how it will be. Changing that is the biggest challenge. Hope Change Congress can improve the situation.

]]>
By: John M. Medlock https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679#comment-26484 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:45:54 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/mecharlie_rose.html#comment-26484 Referring to the Charlie Rose interview…
I have to wonder whether money is really the problem or is it the fact that legislators have the opportunity to make a career of Congress, and thus need the money to realize this opportunity.
From everything I have read there seems no indication that our founders harbored any notion of career legislators; too bad, maybe had they so imagined they could have forestalled it.

]]>
By: Green Retirement https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679#comment-26483 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:02:06 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/mecharlie_rose.html#comment-26483 Lawrence:
Money=Free Speech. The method available for limiting money’s influence in politics is a constitutional amendment. This would eliminate the need for public funding. I am surprised that a constitutional amendment for political financing did not come up in the interview.

Ramsay

]]>
By: D. Anthony https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679#comment-26482 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:14:29 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/mecharlie_rose.html#comment-26482 Any chance we can encourage you (Lessig) to be appointed to the newly created position of Copyright Czar when Obama takes office? 🙂

]]>
By: Kyle Goetz https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3679#comment-26481 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:23:42 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/11/mecharlie_rose.html#comment-26481 Professor Lessig,

I’ve seen you speak via the internet many times before and was fortunate to see you speak in 2007 at The University of Texas campus about free culture (Sanford Levinson’s student, in case you remember–though likely not). Once again, it’s been my pleasure to see you out fighting the good fight. I was also pleased to see that Charlie Rose was familiar with your arguments and seemed to be on your side. We the People need all the help from the media we can get.

Your argument about the difference between the Presidency and Congress for public funding purposes was compelling. I’ve been struggling with Obama’s reneging on his public financing promise, because I have been a supporter of his for a while. My concern was that in the presidential race Obama would not have won without massive amounts of money simply because of his lack of name recognition among those who do not watch CNN religiously.

The conclusion seems to be that the longest-serving candidate (or incumbent) has a massive advantage in all elections if each candidate receives public financing simply because, all things being equal (money included), name recognition is one thing that unbalances the equation.

Do you think that this result would actually occur if public financing were mandatory? Or does it even matter, since the Change Congress movement seems less geared toward ousting certain candidates and more geared toward, at this point, merely changing the money game regardless of who is in office?

]]>