Comments on: Advice taken https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937 2002-2015 Mon, 09 May 2005 16:27:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: ericb https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937#comment-10182 Mon, 09 May 2005 16:27:46 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/05/advice_taken.html#comment-10182 In the same vein as BzzAgent …

USWeb remakes the art of the Shill…
It looks like the folks at USWeb.com, a leading Internet marketing firm, have taken the idea of shilling one step further and could very well be in violation of the Federal Trade Commission Act. [Bravo 411 | May 06, 2005].

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By: Adrian Lopez https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937#comment-10181 Sun, 08 May 2005 21:18:51 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/05/advice_taken.html#comment-10181 deus ex machina,

Does that mean the United States’ founding fathers were communists?

Jay eye enn gee oh,
Jay eye enn gee oh,
Jay eye enn gee oh,
and Jingo was his name-o.

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By: deus ex machina https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937#comment-10180 Sun, 08 May 2005 09:20:47 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/05/advice_taken.html#comment-10180 the ugly side of dot.communism

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By: John Harrigan https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937#comment-10179 Sun, 08 May 2005 08:50:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/05/advice_taken.html#comment-10179 thanks for listening. FP are happy to be able to use CC again

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By: Adrian Lopez https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937#comment-10178 Sat, 07 May 2005 20:28:03 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/05/advice_taken.html#comment-10178 I object to the use of the phrase “no rights respected”. While I believe in granting people, for limited times, exclusive rights to their works, I think it’s unfair to suggest that “no rights respected” represents the other end of the “rights” spectrum. “No rights respected” belongs on the same side as “all rights reserved”, like an image in a mirror that is reversed but on the same side of the frame.

I think that “no rights reserved” and “no rights conferred” would be a better way to describe the other end of the copyright spectrum, as it represents the public domain that was once an integral part of the copyright bargain. While we’re promoting less restrictive copyright terms, let’s not forget that even the CC licenses constitute a limited monopoly that should expire after a reasonable period of time.

That “no rights respected” is somehow the equivalent of “no rights conferred” is an unfair way to represent the copyright bargain. Let’s not forget that copyright is not a natural right, but a statutory one.

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By: Simon Pole https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937#comment-10177 Sat, 07 May 2005 19:47:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/05/advice_taken.html#comment-10177 Jason wrote: Was this third choice not growing fast enough? Why was the CC group worried?

The only person who thought CC needed help, or to be “augmented” or that it wasn’t growing fast enough was Dave Balter.

The idea that CC was somehow falling short was introduced into this discussion by Balter. Go back and read his blog posts about CC. Now others are beginning to parrot the same line. Is the ulterior motive any clearer? A marketing company tells you you’re good, but not good enough. You need our help.

Its sad that CC is actually buying this stuff. Have some pride.

If BzzAgent is to be involved with CC in the future, its role should be clearly demarcated and visible to all.

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By: quixote https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937#comment-10176 Sat, 07 May 2005 19:13:19 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/05/advice_taken.html#comment-10176 Wow. You folks listened. You actually listened. I am impressed, big-time. Good for you. Now I want to race out and help. so, over to the wiki….

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By: Jason Scott https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937#comment-10175 Sat, 07 May 2005 16:18:26 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/05/advice_taken.html#comment-10175 I am interested in CC neither as a lifestyle or a thing to plaster on my arm in an armband, but as someone releasing a very large, years-in-making project, I was delighted to find groundwork laid for a way to have a third choice between “public domain” and “yeah, I have full copyright, but trust me, I won’t sue”. CC gave me that third choice, and in fact dozens of variations between that choice.

I found out about CC from weblogs, from archive.org, from a number of mentions of “….and it’s licensed with a creative commons license!” that I saw and eventually clicked on and read. In other words, I saw it from people making stuff that I wanted to read, hear and see, and who mentioned this was how they would provide their works, and I got interested.

My project is going somewhere in the range of a few thousand individuals; the information on my project and mentions in the DVDs themselves all talk about how it is Creative Commons licensed, and people will hear of it that way, and word will grow.

I figured that’s how it was going to work. Was this third choice not growing fast enough? Why was the CC group worried?

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By: anon https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937#comment-10174 Sat, 07 May 2005 13:43:02 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/05/advice_taken.html#comment-10174 to phillip torrone … a bit late, don’t you think. its over bud.

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By: Shane C. https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2937#comment-10173 Sat, 07 May 2005 03:42:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/05/advice_taken.html#comment-10173 While the process has been public and (in some cases) ugly, as far as the outcomes are concerned, everyone involved in this seems, now, to be doing the right thing.

And in the interest of doing so myself: an apology.

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