Comments on: McCain/Palin to YouTube: Get real https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634 2002-2015 Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:56:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Dan W Rykard https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634#comment-25924 Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:56:24 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/10/mccainpalin_to_youtube_get_rea.html#comment-25924 mcCain needs to take off the gloves and this nice guy act and get tough on Obama’s past and what he wants to do when he is elected President, With Obama as President and Pelosi and Reid and the rest of the Democrat party, this nation as we know it the U.S.A. will become a Sociologist country.
May God Bless
Walter Louisiana

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By: YouTube Master https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634#comment-25923 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:58:54 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/10/mccainpalin_to_youtube_get_rea.html#comment-25923 don’t get me wrong, i love the youtube community and everything it has done in recent years, but i really think the bias is getting out of hand. i would hate to see censorship and political agendas ruin such an awesome communication medium.

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By: Will https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634#comment-25922 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:58:03 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/10/mccainpalin_to_youtube_get_rea.html#comment-25922 The only way this can be fixed is if YouTube is not forced to comply with take-down notices until there is proof of infringement.

The DMCA is causing a LOT of trouble, and solving very few actual problems. If content owners can’t be satisfied with an “innocent until proven guilty” procedure, even if some real criminals slip through the cracks, then I can’t quite bring myself to have much sympathy for them.

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By: Dan https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634#comment-25921 Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:24:02 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/10/mccainpalin_to_youtube_get_rea.html#comment-25921 I know you’re used to preaching to the masses who were raised on the Napster “revolution” (aka socially sanctioned theft of other people’s property) who want any excuse to ignore intellectual property in general, but, come on, you need to get real. “Fair use” is not a license to use whatever you want. The DMCA doesn’t go far enough in protection copyrights. If anything YouTube isn’t proactive enough in taking down copyright violations. The idea that someone can just claim some political reason and then get an automatic loophole exception is insane. What YouTube needs to do is take things down on any report and only put them back up after the uploader has proven he has the right to use all the content. John McCain certainly has the resources to get right on that. Demanding that they shouldn’t have to bother to do that work is just idiotic.

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By: tyler k. rauman https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634#comment-25920 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:12:24 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/10/mccainpalin_to_youtube_get_rea.html#comment-25920 You are part-joking right?
Obviously there should not be a two-tiered system for handling copyright claims. That would only make it harder to get rid of these bogus copyright laws in the first place.

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By: Reece https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634#comment-25919 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:44:32 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/10/mccainpalin_to_youtube_get_rea.html#comment-25919 As a lot of others have said before me… I don’t think you should come out as whole-heartedly in favor of the this as you seem to be.

It is a first step to acknowledging there is a problem but the proposed solution is simply wrong.

“Google is complying with the DMCA as it is written, it is interfering with us, therefore Google need to make an exception for us”

What????

They are so nearly there and yet so very far away. I doubt Google will open themselves up to the innumerable lawsuits this could bring from both campaigns if they throw away their ‘safe harbor’ so I’m looking forward to the response which I hope will be some legalese form of:

“You enacted the law. If you don’t like it, repeal it”

Although I think that if anything were to happen it would be to change the law to enact this ridiculous exception rather than fix it for normal folks but we can always hope.

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By: Jim https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634#comment-25918 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:05:32 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/10/mccainpalin_to_youtube_get_rea.html#comment-25918 McCain wants special treatment when the very Act that he voted “Aye” to causes him problems.

Sure, he has a fair use claim, as have many people that have posted videos on Youtube that have been taken down. The law may not have made requirements of automated processing, but how else is Google to comply without financial hardship on the number one video sharing site on the planet? If special consideration was made for videos of political content alone, the volume must still be staggering, especially during election season?

He should have to follow the provisions of the law that all those people had to follow and see how the provisions that he helped vote into law have had a chilling effect instead of asking for special favor.

Maybe, when he becomes President or goes back to the Senate, he can learn something from the experience and affect some change in the area of copyright policy.

in effect, is McCain not making the argument that he should not penalized by the law because he as a politician using the clips for his political gain is obviously not abusing fair use like others who are caught by these same compliance provisions to the DMCA.

How is that not a corruption of the law? I would honestly like to know. Isn’t the law supposed to be blindly applied?

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By: rob https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634#comment-25917 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:03:56 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/10/mccainpalin_to_youtube_get_rea.html#comment-25917 I’m calling you out, Lawrence. Why do you think this is so great, specifically? Its admittedly thorough; it makes interesting points as to how limiting the law can be. But the request to make a special case for campaigns is particularly egregious. Surely you can’t support putting politicians above the law, which is clearly what is being requested.

Quick, reply in this forum before I regret supporting Creative Commons in the past and discontinue doing so in the future.

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By: Jim O'Hara https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634#comment-25916 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:14:21 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/10/mccainpalin_to_youtube_get_rea.html#comment-25916 What ever happened to the old adage that you have to lie in the bed you’ve made? McCain supported the DMCA, but now that it affects him adversely, he wants special treatment? That hardly sounds democratic. Maybe this will make him think more about the unintended consequences of the bills he votes for. I hope youtube stands firm on their equal treatment of all DMCA takedown notices.

Jimbo

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By: Bill Moore https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3634#comment-25915 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:26:29 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/10/mccainpalin_to_youtube_get_rea.html#comment-25915 So, we should allow a two tiered system? One for politicians and one for ‘the rest of us’? Seems to me we should hold McCain to the same rules you and I live by, then, maybe, he’ll change the law to something more reasonable for all of us.

Yea.. and pigs will fly. This IS McCain, after all. But I can dream.

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