Comments on: creativity when the control freaks sleep https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291 2002-2015 Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:00:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Lee Kane https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291#comment-2904 Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:00:02 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/07/creativity_when_the_control_fr.html#comment-2904 Oops… *does not charge for recent articles* (they do charge for older ones)

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By: Lee Kane https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291#comment-2903 Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:58:53 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/07/creativity_when_the_control_fr.html#comment-2903 In the NYT article a couple of days ago on the RIAA subpeonas the writer said P2P downloaders “rationalize” (quote) their behavior by claiming music is too expensive. Interesting choice of words from the NYT.

How to rebel against registration sites (to those confused, the Times does *not* charge…they only require registration): Always, always put in completely bogus and ridiculous demographic information when registering so that such information becomes completely useless. It’s a joke already that orgs like the Times think their registration is somehow telling them who their users are…

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By: Timothy Phillips https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291#comment-2902 Tue, 29 Jul 2003 01:08:02 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/07/creativity_when_the_control_fr.html#comment-2902 This article in the Christian Science Monitor

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0718/p13s02-almp.html

discusses the process of cumulative creativity, as does my latest post to Telae Tabulae

From the Monitor article:

“Paul McCartney conceded that the tune ‘Yesterday,’ one of the most popular pop ballads of all time, may have been based on McCartney’s subconscious borrowing from an old Nat King Cole song called ‘Answer Me.'”

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By: Matthew Smillie https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291#comment-2901 Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:35:58 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/07/creativity_when_the_control_fr.html#comment-2901 Slippery slope arguments always seem a little dodgy to me, but I thought I’d point this one out:

  1. First they sued file-sharing companies.
  2. Then they sued ISPs.
  3. Then they sued “super-sharers”.
  4. Now they’re suing anyone.

The supposition that they’d never actually sue an individual was of relative comfort during stage 1; the supposition that they wouldn’t arrest an individual now is somehow not as comforting. I think the fact that it’s even become a possibility says a lot about the situation.

As an aside, it constantly amazes me the number of people willing to jump to the defence of large media corporations (be they news, music, movies, or even computer games) and their pricing policies. They have entire marketing departments to do that for them, their motivation being to make money. What’s your motivation in doing their work for them?

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By: Karl https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291#comment-2900 Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:27:39 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/07/creativity_when_the_control_fr.html#comment-2900 Rob,

Talk of arrest may be a bit rash. Thus far, all the RIAA’s suits have been civil cases. As was repeatedly made clear in the DOJ IP lawyers� interview on Slashdot last week, none of these cases have involved criminal charges, yet.

-kd

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By: Rob https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291#comment-2899 Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:26:33 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/07/creativity_when_the_control_fr.html#comment-2899 Also, IANAL and all that but it seems pretty clear to me that they would contend you are violating their exclusive distribution rights.

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By: Rob https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291#comment-2898 Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:21:19 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/07/creativity_when_the_control_fr.html#comment-2898 Ugh, the subpoenas are already going out. They are going out to ISPs, to force them to disclose who was using a particular IP address to share files. It won’t be the subpoena scaring the hell out of the worried mother, it will be a summons (or maybe an arrest warrant!) to appear in court and defend herself because her child was sharing files.

The president of the Recording Industry Association of America, the trade group for the largest music labels, said lawyers will pursue downloaders regardless of personal circumstances because it would deter other Internet users.

“The idea really is not to be selective, to let people know that if they’re offering a substantial number of files for others to copy, they are at risk,” Cary Sherman said. “It doesn’t matter who they are.”

Here is the full story.

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By: Slink https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291#comment-2897 Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:11:40 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/07/creativity_when_the_control_fr.html#comment-2897 Somewhat re the NYT mention… I’m commencing a BA degree course in Political Science, and am looking for the best US papers to buy (in the UK) to keep up to date, since the course I’m doing and the area I’m most interested in is US politics.
I am mainly liberal and am interested to see how Howard Dean does in the next election, and would like papers with a more Democratic slant.
Any advice on this would be hugely appreciated!

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By: Trevor Hill https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291#comment-2896 Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:18:08 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/07/creativity_when_the_control_fr.html#comment-2896 Ugh — It would seem to me that should be considered some sort of contribution to infringement, or incitement or enablement of infringement, rather than direct infringement, although I am not a lawyer…

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By: Ugh https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2291#comment-2895 Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:58:50 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/07/creativity_when_the_control_fr.html#comment-2895 Karl –

It may not leave their claim much to stand on, but it may be enough to get a subpoena and scare the hell out of some worried mother. I was just wondering if they were contending that the act of making such files available was enough to constitute infringement (they seem to think it does, at least from what I’ve heard).

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