Comments on: From the how-quickly-they-learn department https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3604 2002-2015 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:03:51 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: LIsa Borodkin https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3604#comment-25418 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:03:51 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/09/from_the_howquicklytheylearn_d.html#comment-25418 [i]Uhh, I think Russ’s point was that MLB doesn’t need to make an exception because it has no standing to do so. [/i]

Exception refers to business practices, not to the copyright doctrine.

My point is merely that the parties communicated, and wisely arrived at a business solution rather than quibble over who has standing or not. You get more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.

]]> By: Niles Gibbs https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3604#comment-25417 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:15:55 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/09/from_the_howquicklytheylearn_d.html#comment-25417 Someone (EFF, CC, cough cough) should make a DMCA takedown fair use response generator using this as the boilerplate. Just click through a list of transformative options, put in the offending rights holder’s name and the work in question. Fight fire with fire.

]]> By: G. S. Arnold https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3604#comment-25416 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:39:10 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/09/from_the_howquicklytheylearn_d.html#comment-25416 Russ’s eloquently written counter-notice no doubt persuaded MLB to make an exception for this work.

Uhh, I think Russ’s point was that MLB doesn’t need to make an exception because it has no standing to do so.

]]> By: Crosbie Fitch https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3604#comment-25415 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:11:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/09/from_the_howquicklytheylearn_d.html#comment-25415 Oops! I should have said “Incidentally, Russ said ‘trademark claim’ – is that a typo?”

]]> By: Crosbie Fitch https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3604#comment-25414 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:06:18 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/09/from_the_howquicklytheylearn_d.html#comment-25414 A culture in which corporate control is counterbalanced by letters from learned lawyers, is diametrically distant from any notion of ‘free culture’ – even yours.

I suggest copyright abolition is by far the more natural reform that our culture is in desperate need of. Though it is of course unlikely to spring from the efforts of corporations and lawyers, given the unbounded prosperity they’d enjoy from a legally constrained culture precisely intended to favour the publishing corporations.

Copyright – what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!

Incidentally, you said ‘trademark claim’ – is that a typo?

]]> By: Lisa Borodkin https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3604#comment-25413 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:19:39 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/09/from_the_howquicklytheylearn_d.html#comment-25413 That is a win-win story.

While I don’t blame MLB for generally having a robust program of IP protection, Russ’s eloquently written counter-notice no doubt persuaded MLB to make an exception for this work. It’s a great example of an entertainment company understanding scale and working with its fans instead of against them. Russ gets to share his video with a wider audience and MLB gets a chance to show its fans that they can be a part of the entertainment experience as well.

Thanks for sharing the notices and the links.

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