Comments on: from the front line https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035 2002-2015 Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:43:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Jay R. Ashworth https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035#comment-383 Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:43:14 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2002/10/from_the_front_line.html#comment-383 Oh, and folo to Marc Shepard, on your last comment: perhaps the Supremes still remember Learned Hand’s comments on precisely that issue… Let us hope they do, anyway.

Cheers,
— jra

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By: Jay R. Ashworth https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035#comment-382 Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:41:39 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2002/10/from_the_front_line.html#comment-382 I hope we win. Notice I said “we”, not “you”. This case is for all of us.

” ‘God!’ he cries, dying alone on Mars, ‘We made it!’ “

Indeed it is. And I was quite impressed by his exposition here. But even moreso by the tenor of (the majority of) the comments here, which, if I were him, I wouldn’t have read. Understandable that he’s nervous enough about how it goes. But even given that I’m struck by the framing and phrasing of the compliments here. Very nicely done, given his send off, folks.

Cheers,
— jra

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By: nate https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035#comment-381 Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:33:14 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2002/10/from_the_front_line.html#comment-381 this is a test

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By: Marc Shepherd https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035#comment-380 Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:55:50 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2002/10/from_the_front_line.html#comment-380 I am not very optimistic. I’ve been praying for CTEA to be overturned, but it certainly didn’t appear that five Justices were persuaded.

Both Rehnquist and Breyer seemed to be concerned about revoking a power that Congress has so often exercised.

The Chief Justice observed that if Congress has so often extended copyrights, and no one has ever challenged their right to do so, that must surely be significant.

And Justice Breyer observed that if CTEA is overturned, then by no principled argument could the 1976[?] Act survive, or indeed any prior extension that delayed already-copyrighted works’ entry into the public domain. Justice Breyer referred to the “chaos” that would ensue.

And unfortunately, I think that some version of the Rehnquist/Breyer argument will prevail. Either the Court will hold that it is unwilling to revoke a power that, for over 200 years, no one has disputed that Congress had. Or, the Court will hold that overturning CTEA (and, as it must, any/all earlier extensions that are still in force) would unsettle too many long-held economic assumptions.

I still believe that Prof. Lessig is right on the law. But I don’t think he persuaded five Justices. I expect a 6-3 defeat.

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By: Jim Dompkowski https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035#comment-379 Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:50:06 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2002/10/from_the_front_line.html#comment-379 This case and your excellent book have inspired me to get involved. And although I am not a lawyer and don’t understand all the nuancesof the argument, I can say, for myself, that whenever there is an issue where Milton Friedman and James Buchanan are on one side, and the MPAA and RIAA are on the other, I don’t have to spend much time in deciding where my support should go.

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By: Dan https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035#comment-378 Thu, 17 Oct 2002 03:58:31 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2002/10/from_the_front_line.html#comment-378 Professor,
Better one Lawrence Lessig who acts to correct a wrong
than a world full of Larry Tribes or Kathleen Sullivans who do nothing.
YOU are the one with the tenacity to get this far. What other lawyers would do is irrelevant.
Good Luck!

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By: Luke https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035#comment-377 Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:39:34 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2002/10/from_the_front_line.html#comment-377 Thanks for all the hard work. You’re an inspiration!

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By: Deven Corzine https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035#comment-376 Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:30:45 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2002/10/from_the_front_line.html#comment-376 I gave an alternative — overturn all the unconstitutional laws as necessary (even if that only leaves the 1790 law intact), but stay the order, so that the laws remain in force (though doomed) — to give Congress a chance to pass a new law to extend copyright to all those works which should rightfully have it now.

For example, a work published in 1980, but never registered with the Copyright Office, is currently protected. Under the original 1790 law, registration would have been required, and the copyright would have expired in 1994 unless renewed. Since the 1976 law was the law of the land in 1980 when the work was created, and thereby set the expectations of the author by way of incentive, the work deserves the protection its author expected. In my vision, Congress would pass a copyright reform bill in 2003 (or maybe 2004) which would retrospectively extend copyright to all works under the prospective rules at the time of creation. This would retrospectively grant a copyright to that 1980 work, expiring in 75 years or life plus 50 years, as appropriate. After this new reform bill is enacted, the court could lift its stay on the ruling, striking the unconstitutional laws while continuously protecting those works which should not yet be public domain.

In my view, this would be constitutional, since the retrospective extension of copyright would be to meet the expectations of the authors at the time of creation, to fulfill the public’s side of the “copyright bargain”. This is very different from granting a windfall to Disney and others to grant terms longer than originally expected by the author at the time of creation.

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By: Buddha Buck https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035#comment-375 Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:18:31 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2002/10/from_the_front_line.html#comment-375 Thank you for fighting this fight.

Devine Corzine’s comments above address several of the issues regaring the 1976 law that I was concerned about, and I share his feeling that all past retrospective copyright extensions should be deemed unconstitutional. I can see, however, grave problems for creators of works after 1976 who toiled in expectation that their works would be protected for at least their own lifetime.

Has there been any research into how many works would enter the public domain if the retrospective effects of the CTEA are overturned? If the retrospective effects of both the 1976 Copyright Act and the CTEA were overturned? Or, assuming that the prospective and retrospecive provisions are inseparable, if both laws were overturned in their entirety?

I think it would be unfair for authors since 1976 to unexpectantly lose their copyrights earlier than expected, but I also see no principled alternatives.

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By: Ben Evans https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2035#comment-374 Wed, 16 Oct 2002 07:45:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2002/10/from_the_front_line.html#comment-374 Thank you. Have a nice break.

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