Comments on: A much more moving NYT endorsement https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3495 2002-2015 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:04:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: closets https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3495#comment-23300 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:04:35 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/01/a_much_more_moving_nyt_endorse.html#comment-23300 After 7 years with an “Idealist” administration (albeit conservative) I am ready for a realist administration. The change I am hoping for is a return to rational moderate government, not another extreme swing of the political pendulum to the left. The JFK administration is a fitting comparison of what may occur with a relatively inexperienced leader of an idealist administration. Why do we Americans have such short term memories?

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By: Paul Murphy https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3495#comment-23299 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:49:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/01/a_much_more_moving_nyt_endorse.html#comment-23299 Does Caroline not know who got the U.S. into Vietnam?

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By: Terry https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3495#comment-23298 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:53:33 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/01/a_much_more_moving_nyt_endorse.html#comment-23298 “Most historians think that Kennedy’s strategy actually proved to be the starting point of what became a “detente” strategy, a recognition that mutual destruction was a self destructive force in so many ways.”

Excuse me, but when Kennedy took office, there WAS NO ARMS RACE. Why? Because we already won.
The missile gap was in our favor. Kennedy LIED ABOUT IT. After the Cuban missile crisis, caused by Kennedy, the arms race was on.
Kennedy was a disaster. Read the “Kennedy IMprosment” by Garry Wills.
I expected better from this bog, really.

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By: mike charlton https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3495#comment-23297 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:03:59 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/01/a_much_more_moving_nyt_endorse.html#comment-23297 I don’t think there’s going to be much of a problem getting past Kennedy. But the Kennedy mystique still carries a great deal of power and weight. Witness the “buzz” surrounding the Caroline Kennedy endorsement or the effort made to court her uncle, Ted Kennedy. to that extent, the comparisons are really necessary, even if tedious. These endorsements mean something in the Democratic primary. That said, it will still be up to Obama to “carry his own water”, a task he seems more than capable of accomplishing. As I noted yesterday, it’s really nice to be able to have finally been around long enough to see this.

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By: Mark Schmidt https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3495#comment-23296 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:20:36 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/01/a_much_more_moving_nyt_endorse.html#comment-23296 I enjoyed the Kennedy essay as much as everyone, but now let’s get past the comparisons to JFK and MLK. Are they really necessary? Let’s listen to the Senator from Illinois who stands tall on his own two feet, not on the shoulders of others.

Great Blog Lawrence, thanks.

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By: mike charlton https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3495#comment-23295 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:07:05 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/01/a_much_more_moving_nyt_endorse.html#comment-23295 I’m not at all comfortable that the last commentator has correctly stated history on the Cuban Missile Crisis. It is true that the Kennedy Administration had its share of warmongers, “Bomb ’em back to the Stone Age” Curtis Lemay, the principle one. Most historians think that Kennedy’s strategy actually proved to be the starting point of what became a “detente” strategy, a recognition that mutual destruction was a self destructive force in so many ways. Kennedy left us with Vietnam and a lot of unfulfilled hope but he was able to articulate that message well. Obama is actually better at it; it would be fun to finally get past race as a defining issue in this country.

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By: joe https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3495#comment-23294 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:37:20 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/01/a_much_more_moving_nyt_endorse.html#comment-23294 It’s fitting that Caroline Kennedy would compare Obama to JFK. (To be fair, she’s not the only one.) Both were relative political neophytes that used their youth to energize the body politic, which helped carry JFK to the White House. Truly inspirational campaigning.

Then, JFK became President. And what is his lasting legacy? The Cuban Missile Crisis. Our fresh-faced fellow allowed himself to be man-handled by anti-communist fearmongers, and therefore almost brought the world to an end. But, to appropriate Joe Biden, JFK certainly was articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, wasn’t he? He, like, wanted us to fly to the moon!

Let’s hope Obama would fair better.

–Possibly the Only 20-something in the Universe That is Wary of Obama

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By: Imre Simon https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3495#comment-23293 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:15:32 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/01/a_much_more_moving_nyt_endorse.html#comment-23293 As one who remembers the JFK years I applaud Caroline’s emotional but absolutely precise endorsement. I am really glad that she wrote it.

As a non-american without a vote but with a vivid interest in the american election, because as Obama’s grandma said, he is running for president of the world, I only hope that you guys won’t mess it up this time!

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By: Imre Simon https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3495#comment-23292 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:12:25 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/01/a_much_more_moving_nyt_endorse.html#comment-23292 As one who remembers the JFK years I applaud Caroline’s emotional but absolutely precise endorsement. I am really glad that she wrote it.

As a non-american without a vote but with a vivid interest in the american election, because as Obama’s grandma said, he is running for president of the world, I only hope that you guys won’t mess it up this time!

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