Comments on: this comment by in a comment captures it best https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846 2002-2015 Tue, 26 Mar 2013 05:20:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Anke https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846#comment-8271 Tue, 26 Mar 2013 05:20:37 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/11/this_comment_by_in_a_comment_c.html#comment-8271 That is a great tip particularly to those new to the blogosphere.
Short but very accurate info… Thank you for sharing this one.
A must read article!

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By: Claire https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846#comment-8270 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:57:44 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/11/this_comment_by_in_a_comment_c.html#comment-8270 I wondering if we will ever evolve to rule by consensus.
I think everyone wants the same things, it’s just that HOW to guarentee those things to everyone can’t be done by majority rule. Too many people are left dissatisfied. There have to be ways to work things out to the relative satisfaction of all. If not, then this is a pitiful indictment of our human intelligence.

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By: CodeWarrior https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846#comment-8269 Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:26:10 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/11/this_comment_by_in_a_comment_c.html#comment-8269 By the way…this country has a “constitutional republic with a strong democratic tradition”…it is not, nor has it ever been a democracy. The Greeks had a democracy…and some have said that a democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.
🙂
~Code

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By: Max Nigh https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846#comment-8268 Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:58:37 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/11/this_comment_by_in_a_comment_c.html#comment-8268 Why such emphasis on Pro-Life, with democarcy at stake.
Pro – lifers must have the same problem many have in this country, with logic tight thinkng compartments. Ok, to kill pregnant women, and young men with all your weapons
Young men we have spent from womb to young manhood with food, gjidance, education, and are ready to make a contribution to society. Killing pregnant women ought to be an unforgivable sin. I thnk the young man is worse sin.
Nobody is standing in front of the white house and objecting to killing young men. Yet , in some narrowminded souls they post themselves in front of “Family PLanning”, and shoot doctors. This and other activites such as Iraq , we are a sick nation.

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By: raoul https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846#comment-8267 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:35:32 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/11/this_comment_by_in_a_comment_c.html#comment-8267 “I believe Kerry is corrupt.”

I agree.

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By: Rob Myers https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846#comment-8266 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:44:26 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/11/this_comment_by_in_a_comment_c.html#comment-8266 One for the Mice:

“A number of states have enacted (or may soon pass) laws that allow pharmacists to refuse to dispense birth control if their beliefs (read: fundamentalist Christian dogma) dictate otherwise.”

http://www.boingboing.net/2004/11/10/us_druggists_refuse_.html

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By: Texas Idiot https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846#comment-8265 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:15:41 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/11/this_comment_by_in_a_comment_c.html#comment-8265 Raoul,

Texas Idiot again. Well maybe we can start over. My view on Moore’s Bush and Iraq is like yours. I believe but with minor differences. I too grew up in the oilpatch , traveled the world following Phillips Petroleum and family. I saw the same as you. I don’t even doubt Bush is corrupt, but I believe Kerry is corrupt. Also Moore didn’t prove shit with his tripe. It was created as propaganda and that’s exactly what it was. I hate propaganda but not as much as I hate people that try to pass it off as proof and fact.
As for Bush, he won but Kerry would show no difference as they each would follow America’s power rules. In my opinion they and the US goverment are raping America just as sure as the CEO and corporate suits raped Enron, Adelphia, Tyco, Worldcom and the rest of the small investors.
Our only chance at anything is if we could figure a way to toss them all and start over. I am a realist though and what would arise in the ashes of that would not be a pretty site.
I am at a loss as I voted for Perot long ago and received Clinton in return. He claims credit for the longest boom in US history, just like Gore claims credit for the Internet. Yet accepts no blame for anything. Just like all the latest presidents or their parties. It’a all Spin city as they try to continue to keep the American People in the dark.
I watched as the two parties banded together to pass tougher laws after Perot’s 1st run to make it even tougher to get on the ballot in the future.
I sit in disgust over our American system as the deficits rise, congress votes itself exemptions and raises, the justice system sends marijuana users to prison for 20 years and then gives child molesting priests a free ride. They are all corrupt and I can’t think of a damn thing to do to stop them that wouldn’t make it worse.
Well as a Christian ( Not the far right ones ) I just fall back on knowing it will be dealt with in time. Yet, I’m just as bad and hippocritical as I desire to introduce them all to Jesus ahead of time. Good Hunting Raoul!

Texas Idiot

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By: Raoul https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846#comment-8264 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 20:37:01 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/11/this_comment_by_in_a_comment_c.html#comment-8264 mY KINGDOM FOR A TYPIST!

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By: raoul https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846#comment-8263 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 18:40:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/11/this_comment_by_in_a_comment_c.html#comment-8263 Well that’s entirely to reasonable of a response. I took a shot in the dark thing about not being from Texas. I knew it was long shot but what the hell.

I’m not a Kerry guy either. He’s far too much of a wimp. Albeit a wimp who has killed at close range. The only things I’ve ever killed have feathers, fins, shells or four legs.

I would have voted for anyone other than Bush. I vote for incumbent based upon there performance. However you cut it Bush has performed poorly. If one wants to give the guy a second chance after he blew it then that’s ok.

As far as M. Moore’s film goes it’s more true than not. I have extensive experience, since I was a toddler, at observing “oilmen” in action. Additionally, I’ve played that role myself a time or two. The power of the lust for the free money that comes out of holes punched in the ground is the most fearsome force I have ever seen. I know people who have killed close family members (true), cheated, lied and stole to get their hands on it. It’s quite an amazing sensation.

Bush and Cheney went into Iraq for oil. The logic is not unsound, we need the oil for strategic purposes and we need to keep it out of the hands of the Arabs for strategic purposes. Ok fine. I disagree, but at least its rational. Further, its also rational to lie to the American people about the real reasons because telling them the truth isn�t going to work. However, Bush got caught red handed making stuff up. And then to boot, they either didn�t have enough boots on the ground or they blew it when they disbanded the Iraqi army and went after all of the mid and lower level Baathists. It would be funny if not so tragic. Every choice of the Bush Administration has been a failure, and obvious ones at that. Iraq will be lost to the Shia fundamentalists which will destabilize the entire Mid-East.

However, the invasion and occupation is not any worse than the sanctions. Has we not intervened in the first gulf war and reinstated the Kuwaiti dictatorship, 9/11 never would have happened and oil would never have gone over $35 a barrel. Saddam would have kept on fighting the very same Islamic fundamentalists we are fighting today. However, Bush just couldn�t let his personal oil interests in Bahrain [sic?] be threatened or his Whabbie [sic?] buddies in the House of Saud.

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By: Texas Idiot https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2846#comment-8262 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 15:29:37 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/11/this_comment_by_in_a_comment_c.html#comment-8262 Raoul,

This is your blogging bud “Texas Idiot”. Good return on that “Alomist” that gets us close to even. I was pretty sure yours was a typo but I went ahead and used it for my own amusement. For that there is no excuse but only a reason. I was tired and annoyed at all the Bush bashing.
I understand that we need Democrats as well as Republicans in this country. It’s our balance of power along with the constitution and the three branches of goverment. We need all of us.
I have my differences with the “carpetbagger” and continue to watch him closely. At the same time I had more trouble with Michael Moore and his film, which I considered pure propaganda trash. I wonder if he helped your cause?
And of course I am not comfortable with whom I consider the strongest liberal in goverment Kerry being elected President.
I am not comfortable with all of the trash being tossed at Bush supporters. I won’t drag this on except to tell you I voted for Bush. I did so for many reasons. You voted the opposite for many reasons. What we have to find to rebuild America is to find common ground. The first exchange is not a good start. Hopefully this will be better.

It might be necessary to deal with the far left and the far right. Neither of those groups seems willing to compromise. The coalition that needs to be formed to save America is from middle left to middle right and everything in between.
We, all of us, have to find a great leader, a bipartisan leader who can unite the parties into one nation and start the country in the right direction again. Bush isn’t close, neither is Kerry.
So you know anybody both parties could accept? No political baggage, no favors owed, no ties to the left or right. A moderate maybe. Great orator, strong moral fiber, and the understanding and patience of God. Sorry no ideas here.

Now my family only goes back four generations in Texas so I am native. I did go to school overseas in Europe for 4 years or so prior and I met the proverbial “Ugly American” there… It was me!
And if you still want my address after this response. Respond back and we will see.

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