Comments on: Change Congress Launched https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525 2002-2015 Fri, 06 Mar 2020 03:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: JT Olio https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525#comment-24078 Fri, 06 Mar 2020 03:21:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/03/change_congress_launched.html#comment-24078 Hi! Any chance you still have this video? I couldn’t find it on YouTube, and blip.tv appears to have shut down in the last 12 years.

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By: JT Olio https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525#comment-24077 Fri, 06 Mar 2020 03:09:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/03/change_congress_launched.html#comment-24077 Hi! Any chance you still have this video? I couldn’t find it on YouTube, and blip.tv appears to have shut down in the last 12 years.

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By: طراحی سایت https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525#comment-24076 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 08:41:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/03/change_congress_launched.html#comment-24076 your web page is really wonderful.. it’s
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By: Milan in Portland https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525#comment-24075 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 06:19:54 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/03/change_congress_launched.html#comment-24075 At a very basic level the first issue discussed, that of copyright reform, is critical to keeping control of “culture” in the hands of the public who in the larger sense are the ultimate creators and rightfully should have freedom to use and express it freely. It would seem the only way that this is going to happen is through the reform of congress.

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By: Peter Maleitzke https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525#comment-24074 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:00:01 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/03/change_congress_launched.html#comment-24074 The gentleman featured in this lecture is to be admired for his commitment and knowledge of the causes that he explores. Bravo for taking time to make a stand.

I am curious that he is not critical of the main branch of government that implements and oversees policies he sites as problems. Not only has the administration of the last 7 years not followed the laws and “policies” he is critical of, but in the name of capitalism, they have nearly obliterated any potential for oversight.

I might add on a personal note, that as an educated citizen who agrees with the general views of the speaker, ( The lack of education is the main problem in the day to day operation of our democracy.) I find the delivery of the speaker to be pompous and condescending and not likely to win over anyone who disagrees with him.

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By: metamars https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525#comment-24073 Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:54:16 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/03/change_congress_launched.html#comment-24073 1) I’m very happy the last woman to ask a question related her experience and her suggested emphasis on having an accessible database of Change-Congress supporters. She had a definite view as to what would motivate a candidate the most! I would add, though, that it’s desirable to track Change-Congress-aware voters (who have not made any pledges). Since they are likely to be less motivated to be engaged in democracy, any kind of keeping track of them that relies on them being proactive is problematic. So, to this end, besides sending households postcards (which may be tossed, so this measure of awareness is problematic), another thing to try is to get non-committed voters to agree to receive a phone call, say 1-3 weeks before an election, telling them what the status is of their local candidates according to Change-Congress anti-corruption criteria. The phone call will only take a few minutes, so it’s not asking too much on the part of the recipient. The harder parts are forming phone bank volunteers who will make these informative calls, and also getting voters to hand over their phone numbers for this purpose. (With the promise that they won’t be harassed. They will get exactly 1 phone call per election cycle, and if the call goes into voicemail, no matter.) These non-pledging, but Change-Congress-aware voters could easily constitute a bigger voting bloc than Change-Congress pledgers. Can’t ignore them.

So, when individuals are approached for the first time, who have no previous exposure to Change-Congress, as a minimum they could be asked for their phone numbers to get the once-per-election informative phone call, but additionally they will be asked to go to the web site and pledge, and to consider getting organizations they belong to involved.

2) We need to track referring organizations with each voter who pledges, if he/she cares to volunteer that information. (I hope you don’t mind if I use the term “we”. I’m really into this.) The reason is, the way to make this go viral, in terms of boots on the ground, is to leverage civic-minded organizations. And, as motivation for them, some friendly competition in terms of how many fellow voters they enlist is never a bad thing. But you can’t have a competition without a means of keeping score, so the database needs a table of Referer’s, with unique id’s, of course.

I personally have no problem with rewarding organizations financially, though I’m afraid this may be unseemly. (After all, the corruption of government has it’s roots in financial interests.) However, if the Change-Congress brain trust decides this is OK, this could play out as in the following example. Boy Scout troops can each be assigned a referer id. Each month, the troop which signs up the most citizen-pledgers, divided by the number of members of the troop, wins. What they win depends on the budget of Change-Congress. But, initially, we could offer something modest like $500 for just the single, winning troop, nation-wide. The awards could be increased to $500 for the top X troops in each state, if the budget allows. If cash rewards are too unseemly, just some certificates would still provide positive reinforcement. (In general, I don’t think giving cash rewards to civic minded groups consisting of minors will raise many eyebrows. I’m sure most people will recognize that especially poorer communities need money for all kinds of positive activities. E.g., a few months ago I met a grown man with his son, who couldn’t have been more than 7 years old, soliciting contributions for his son’s basketball uniform. I’m sure he wouldn’t have been doing that if he could have simply written a check without sweating it.)

3) When a program for enlisting civic-minded groups, such as Boy Scout troops, is worked out, it be nice to have a downloadable .pdf which people like me could print out. I could then present this to whomever I’m talking with, and/or mail it out before a face-to-face meeting.

4) Talk show hosts should be asked to push both individuals to pledge, as well as appealing for groups to get involved. There are a lot of frustrated voters out there, throughout the political spectrum. While I doubt that shameless smear-merchants like Rush Limbaugh would welcome something like Change-Congress, I can’t believe that conservative voters, in the main, like corruption any more than non-conservative ones. Hence, a general appeal to talk show hosts is recommended.

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By: rdebakker https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525#comment-24072 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:50:36 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/03/change_congress_launched.html#comment-24072 interesting.
coming from Europe I’m still wondering why this Government hasn’t been taking down yet, imprisoned Bush and his axis of evil friends, and installed a proper government which controls the money instead of the FRB.

boy how long must we wait before you effen wake up.

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By: CR https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525#comment-24071 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:41:02 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/03/change_congress_launched.html#comment-24071 Oy. (I can say that b/c I am Jewish). I don’t understand why people post comments on here pissed off that Prof. Lessig isn’t riding in like the Messiah to join them in fixing whatever issue it is that is important to them (see Vintage ToonCast.,though I have seen other similar posts in other responses to other issues). If you want to talk to Prof. Lessig about an issue, call him or email him. He’s just a professor (as a former student I know he’s a good one, but still).
I also find it irritating that people seem to find it acceptable to be rude online in a way they would not be in a face to face conversation (see vanderleun). (though possibly I have just committed the same error, see above paragraph)
Anyway, as to the substantive issue- if anyone wants a better understanding of how money crept it’s way into congressional elections, I would suggest reading volume 2 of Robert Caro’s excellent 3 volume (soon to be 4) biography of Lyndon Johnson , The Path to Power. It illuminates how Johnson used money to get elected to the Senate in a way that had never been used before, and how he gained polictical power with his colleagues by raising money for other congressional candidates at a critical time in FDR’s presidency.
Not sure I agree with the transparency point– there’s a saying that law making is like making sauages– you really don’t want to see how it’s done, and I think there’s some truth to that. And I’m not sure how your idea to raise money for candidates who agree with the CC position doesn’t make CC a new PAC with a focus on reform. Also, it is important I think to acknowledge the disconnect that has always existed between support for Congress v. support for a Congressman. It has been true for many years now that when a person is asked how they feel about Congress, they say (roughly) “they stink.” Yet that same person, when asked how he feels about his particular Congressman, will say “I love him/her.” And that factors into how much peopletruly want reform.
Also could have done with the metaphor at the end about alcoholism, as it seemed unnecessary, but that’s just me.
In any event, given my own ennui/laziness about enjoying the comfort of my own little world too much to do much about changing the world around me, I always applaud anyone who actually tries to achieve whatever change can be achieved.

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By: onehundredwishes https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525#comment-24070 Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:29:55 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/03/change_congress_launched.html#comment-24070 I would be very interested to see how you might tie your work into that of John Taylor Gatto. His outstanding critique of the American Education system lays bare many of the same elitist agendas that you have begun unraveling in the context of politics. Worth your time (and I don’t say that about many things). It’s free and online. http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/index.htm

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By: Vintage ToonCast https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3525#comment-24069 Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:42:26 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/03/change_congress_launched.html#comment-24069 I want to give you control of Vintage ToonCast, a podcast with over 16,000 subscribers and over 40,000 regular viewers. Several eppisodes, including one on net neutrality, have gone viral. Please carefully read below:

I’m saying explicitly that I have the means to help you raise awareness about this Change Congress movement, and that it is in fact ironic that we might use the public domain to do so. I’m saying I need your help in bringing this message to the people subscribed to Vintage ToonCast. I’m saying that you shouldn’t ignore emails asking for help to achieve the same goals you have. You remind me of other professors I’ve had who ignore emails they don’t want to deal with. In this response it seems as though you’ve not read what I wrote. This is where the “step out of the ivory tower” comment comes in. I’m well aware that you’ve spoke on numerous occasions to private
audiences regarding the public domain issues. I’m saying we need to take this out of the academic and bring it to the masses. The smart ones will get it if we explain it well enough. I was one of the key
podcasters who helped to raise awareness about net neutrality. This is possible.

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