Comments on: we need your help https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178 2002-2015 Sun, 01 Jun 2003 19:52:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Joseph Pietro Riolo https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178#comment-1210 Sun, 01 Jun 2003 19:52:36 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/we_need_your_help.html#comment-1210 Hi Mr. Lessig,

Thank you for your feedback.

There is a saying that for every deliberation we make,
we must consider its impact on the next seven generations.
While I can see a positive consequence of the Eldred Act
which is that it will expire the copyright protection much
earlier and thereby return the copyrighted expressions to
their original status which is the public domain, I also can
visualize a possible undesirable consequence of the act.
The undesirable consequence is that the act provides
positive reinforcement for the continuance of copyright
protection and in turn it will increase the copyright term.
In the long run, the benefit of shorter copyright protection
due to the lack of maintenance fee will be easily dwarfed
by the increase in copyright term.

I would be very wrong. I am not totally convinced that the
act will produce more benefit than harm. I am afraid that
the copyright holders will use the act, if it becomes a law, as
a valid excuse for increasing copyright term.

When you introduced the idea about the Eldred Act few
months ago, Creative Commons did not have the project
known as the Founders� Copyright back then. Now that
Creative Commons provides it, I think that this makes
the act irrelevant.

At the forum called �Creativity and the Public Domain: Does
Copyright Protect Too Much or Too Little?� in New York City
last month, Marybeth Peters said that she did not agree with
the Eldred Act because it will not work with the treaties on
copyright and it will make difficult for the poor to pay the
fee. There was a person in the audience who thanked her
for speaking up for the poor. The lay people will see the
Eldred Act as favoring the rich and big corporations who
can afford the maintenance fee for many millions of works.

I wholly agree with you that we need to increase the value
of the public domain. But, it is still premature to say that
the Supreme Court does not see the value in the public
domain. For example, the Court said that D.C. Circuit went
too far in saying that copyright is immune from challenges
under the First Amendment. We will find out soon how it
will rule in the case Dastar Corp. v. Twentieth Century Fox
Film Corp. Also, we will see whether it will grant certiorari
to Southern Building Code Congress International, Inc. v.
Peter Veeck and if so, how it will rule in that case.

The key to increase the value of the public domain is
education. People like you did a very excellent job in
increasing the awareness of the dangers of expansive
copyright among the population. At the same time, you
also increased the awareness of the public domain. It will
take some time for the importance of the public domain to
permeate through the population. Creative Commons
provides two ways (Founders� Copyright and dedication to
the public domain) to actualize the importance of the public
domain. I believe that this speaks louder than the Eldred
Act and eventually makes it irrelevant.

Sincerely,

Joseph Pietro Riolo
<[email protected]>

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this
post in the public domain.

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By: Lessig https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178#comment-1209 Sat, 31 May 2003 23:49:58 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/we_need_your_help.html#comment-1209 Mr. Riolo,
Let me try to persuade you to the contary.

One big reason the Court went against us is that the Court didn’t see what the value of the public domain is. And one big reason it didn’t see the value of the public domain is that is has been denied to us for about 40 years.

The real way to counter this view is by demonstrating how powerful and valuable and important the public domain is. But we can’t do that unless we actually have a public domain.

The Eldred Act would create a public domain. It wouldn’t be everything, but it would be 98%. And then, when the question gets raised again, someone will have a much better chance to make the argument we tried to make: That terms have to be limited because the public domain is so important.

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By: Joseph Pietro Riolo https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178#comment-1208 Sat, 31 May 2003 11:55:44 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/we_need_your_help.html#comment-1208 From my personal perspective, the Edlred Act is really
a bad idea. It only will continue to help the copyright term
to expand infinitely. That is because the act does not
exert any negative influence on the copyright term.
People in future (after 2010) will say to Congress, “Look
we have the Eldred Act passed in 2010, please increase
copyright term to 500 years so that we can have protection
for 500 years as long as we pay the maintenance fee.”

Let’s forget about the Eldred Act. We already have the
option of dedicating our works to the public domain before
copyright term expires. Moreover, it is gratis. Creative
Commons has a way to help people dedicate their works
to the public domain. As more people become familiar
with Creative Commons, few more people will dedicate
their works to the public domain.

Joseph Pietro Riolo

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this
post in the public domain.

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By: Jack Johnson https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178#comment-1207 Wed, 21 May 2003 16:00:07 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/we_need_your_help.html#comment-1207 Just wrote my congresswoman, FWIW.

I also just had this funny mental image. I saw Matrix Reloaded Monday night, and there’s a scene with Neo flying at ludicrous speed, with pretty much everything not tied down sucked along with him in his wake.

My vision was of Mickey as Neo, with all the abandoned intellectual property as his own personal detrius-wake.

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By: Garson Poole https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178#comment-1206 Wed, 21 May 2003 00:23:49 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/we_need_your_help.html#comment-1206 Imagine the following alternative approach. A library digitizes all its copyrighted and non-copyrighted content. The content is made available to users over the internet through an “electronic check-out” process. Only one electronic replica of an item can be checked out at one time. Further, the actual physical copy of an item can not be accessed unless the electronic replica is not currently checked out. Electronic replicas are deleted from patrons computers or e-book readers during the check-in process.

Even with these strong access restrictions, I think that the utility and popularity of these electronic libraries would be enormous. Broad and deep content collections could be made widely available. Powerful search techniques would be possible after digitalization.

Unfortunately, consider what happened to mp3.com when they tried to make electronic replicas of music available to individuals who already owned the original recordings. They lost the resulting court battle. It seems supportive legislation is required to create these libraries. If I own a book I should be able to loan it. In the electronic age, if I own a book I should be able to make an electronic replica and loan either one instance of the replica or one physical copy of the book.

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By: John Mark Walker https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178#comment-1205 Mon, 19 May 2003 18:17:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/we_need_your_help.html#comment-1205 What happened to Zoe Lofgren? This is disturbing news if she’s backing out.

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By: Curt Siffert https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178#comment-1204 Mon, 19 May 2003 04:40:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/we_need_your_help.html#comment-1204 I hope it wouldn’t be turned around as reason to further extend copyright expirations.

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By: David Mattison https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178#comment-1203 Sun, 18 May 2003 16:56:19 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/we_need_your_help.html#comment-1203 Canada’s Parliament introduced legislation to legitimize the merger of the National Archives of Canada and the National Library of Canada that was announced in the fall 2002. Buried in the legislation is an amendment to Canada’s Copyright Act that will extend copyright on unpublished works where the author died between, I think, 1929 and 1949. The amendment is intended on changing an earlier amendment that came into force in 1998 (and there was intense debate around it) and which would have seen unpublished works by authors who died before 1948 pass into the public domain on December 31, 2003. Obviously, Canada is now following the Disney Corp. in its efforts to control that very intelligent mouse. Unpublished works by authors such as Lucy Maud Montgomery, Emily Carr and many others, if this amendment is passed, will be protected until 2018. While proponents of the amendment cite L.M. Montgomery’s work as an example where the literary heirs (I’m not sure if this means actual family) have yet to fully mine her unpublished materials, in the case of Emily Carr, there is no family to benefit, so only museums, archives and private sector entities will continue to profit from her unpublished literary efforts such as letters or manuscripts.

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By: randy https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178#comment-1202 Sun, 18 May 2003 13:48:51 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/we_need_your_help.html#comment-1202 I’ve contacted my Congressman, Todd Akin of Missouri, about this idea. I think its compelling and it is one of the few ideas I’ve seen in the IP arena recently that I can fully support.

While I’m a more staunch proponent of copyrights, I think that the concepts of requiring renewal rights and a “protection” of the IP is a great one. If it ceases to be protected, then it should fall into the public domain and should benefit all of us.

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By: Jason Buberel https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2178#comment-1201 Sun, 18 May 2003 04:49:14 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/we_need_your_help.html#comment-1201 For a sample letter you can borrow from or re-use, as well as the addresses for the federal representatives for portions of Santa Clara County California (Silicon Valley), see the link below:

Support Lawrence Lessig!

Great work Professor Lessig. Keep up the fight!

-jason

PS Donate some monety to The EFF while you’re at it.

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