Comments on: We’ve got 7 days, and we need $55,000 https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117 2002-2015 Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Nilesh https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117#comment-12890 Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:50:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/12/weve_got_7_days_and_we_need_55.html#comment-12890 My brother recommended I may like this web-site. He had been totally suitable. This offered in fact designed the day time. You can not feel just how much time I had spent due to this data!
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By: seo pouya https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117#comment-12889 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 15:36:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/12/weve_got_7_days_and_we_need_55.html#comment-12889 Thanks you for your sharing

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By: Anonymous https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117#comment-12888 Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:29:29 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/12/weve_got_7_days_and_we_need_55.html#comment-12888 cbd: Thanks, but the Honor System only honors credit cards. The only way to get rid of my gift certificate is to give it to someone else (now impossible because I deposited it), or spend it on Lawrence’s book 10 times over 🙂

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By: Erica_Davies@health.qld.gov.au https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117#comment-12887 Wed, 28 Dec 2005 04:58:34 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/12/weve_got_7_days_and_we_need_55.html#comment-12887 We can do it
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By: wolli https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117#comment-12886 Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:12:08 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/12/weve_got_7_days_and_we_need_55.html#comment-12886 Lawrence,

Paypal only offers limited accounts in the country I live in. Can I support you via Moneybookers?

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By: cbd https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117#comment-12885 Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:45:52 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/12/weve_got_7_days_and_we_need_55.html#comment-12885 I emailed the CC audit staff last night, and got this response:

CC’s most recent audited financial statements are posted at http://ibiblio.org/cccr/docs/audit.pdf. The Statement of Activities shows that just over 82% of our funds ($1,105,583) went to programs and nearly 18% ($234,662) was spent on administrative and fundraising expenses. The Statement of Functional Expenses gives you a general breakdown of how this money was spent.

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By: cbd https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117#comment-12884 Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:54:30 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/12/weve_got_7_days_and_we_need_55.html#comment-12884 Anonymous, there’s a link to the Amazon Honor System for CC on their support page.

Mark, I think the Lessig letters provide more a bit more detail about the future of CC than you allow here. But I agree that a link to financial data or audits would be nice.

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By: Seth Finkelstein https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117#comment-12883 Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:20:37 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/12/weve_got_7_days_and_we_need_55.html#comment-12883 As mentioned, some of this seems to have to do with IRS regulations about “public charities” (i.e. “501(c)(3)” organizations)

http://www.ezec.gov/Toolbox/501c3factsheet.html

“There are 8 types of tax-exempt 501(c)3 organizations: charitable; religious; educational; scientific; literary organizations; those that test for public safety; support national and international sports competitions; and those that work to prevent cruelty to children or animals. Many community and economic development organizations have chosen to classify themselves as educational organizations. However, be aware that 501(c)3 public charities are supposed to receive at least one third of their support from the general public. Some organizations find themselves relying heavily on donations from founders or board members, or going back year after year to the same foundations or corporations for income, which may not count as “public” support. “

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By: nate https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117#comment-12882 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:35:25 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/12/weve_got_7_days_and_we_need_55.html#comment-12882 Mark —

First, as you probably realize, there is no good infrastructure for micropayments. How do you propose to collect these fees?

Second, it is not the creator who gains from having work under a CC license, but the public. A comparison between the cost of an attorney drafting up a license and a small payment is invalid, because the current default is no license at no cost. The goal is to make it easier for a creator to keep only partial rights, for the benefit of others. Charging the benevolent licensor (in money and hassle) for their generosity is counterproductive.

I think your overall question is good, though: “What is the money for?” One of the letters offers some details about future projects (http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5734), but not any explanation of what the money will be used for. And is the goal an arbitrary number? The only logic offered for the amount seems to be “We are down to the last $100,000”.

Does this somehow explain why you need another $100,000? If $100,000 is a critically small amount, why is that also the amount you need to raise? If it is a large amount, where is the crisis? How much did you start with? What was it spent on? How long will this money last? And the references to the need for “public support” would seem to imply the real need cannot actually be mentioned. It all feels too shady, mysterious, and manipulative for me to want to be part of.

–nate

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By: Mark https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3117#comment-12881 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:50:48 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/12/weve_got_7_days_and_we_need_55.html#comment-12881 regarding my repost above of Tim’s post from 12-22-05:

After reading “The Lessig Letters” I am still dumbfounded.
What do you need the moeny for? Paying the “volunteers from over 70 countries around the world interested in porting our licenses to their local law????”

Here you go Mr. Lessig – charge $0.05 per license user.
It is fair price, a nickle for a real legal use license that would cost between $500 to $1000 if the user went to an attorney. At the 50,000,000 link-backs CC brags about – CC would have close to $3,000,000 in spending cash – 30X more than the paltry $100,000 you are begging for.

As I would tell the drunk at my door “son, get a job.”

NB – Assuming that 5 US cents is too expensive for some of your 3rd world country users, CC could create a scale, say, charging U$S 0.08 for US users and U$S 0.02 for those in Cuba.

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