Comments on: Code, realized https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230 2002-2015 Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:23:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Mercedez Tsunoda https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230#comment-14544 Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:23:01 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/code_realized.html#comment-14544 Having read this I thought it was very informative. I appreciate you taking the time and energy to put this short article together. I once again find myself personally spending a significant amount of time both reading and posting comments. But so what, it was still worth it!

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By: Adelaide Aslanian https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230#comment-14543 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:44:28 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/code_realized.html#comment-14543 You’re so cool! I do not think I’ve truly read something like that before. So wonderful to find somebody with unique thoughts on this topic. Really.. many thanks for starting this up. This site is something that is needed on the internet, someone with some originality!

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By: Rebbeca Biggs https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230#comment-14542 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:13:08 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/code_realized.html#comment-14542 This is a topic that’s near to my heart… Best wishes! Where are your contact details though?

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By: Googler https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230#comment-14541 Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:54:25 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/code_realized.html#comment-14541 This is the same thing that Google Analytics and most other tracking systems use, web beacons. It’s nothing new.

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By: Rob Myers https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230#comment-14540 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:17:07 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/code_realized.html#comment-14540 As for Second Life I have a paid account there and my son is a landowner on the teen grid. It’s cool but it isn’t remotely Free, and it is a hazardous environment for creative work or creating freedom in. The data is in weird formats, both client and server are proprietary and the communications protocol is undocumented. The company are still making heavy losses. They will come under increasing pressure over copyright and trademark infringement inworld. Success could harm creative freedom almost as much as failure for SL. And like Gmail, only worse because the data isn’t just ASCII that you can send elsewhere, freedom and work in SL would simply evaporate if the servers were turned off.

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By: Rob Myers https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230#comment-14539 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:02:49 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/code_realized.html#comment-14539 It is difficult to compare writing privacy invading systems on top of Gmail to bootstrapping GNU using UNIX.

The problem with this comparison is that you could not recreate Gmail in Gmail and then run it elsewhere as a Free replacement for the original. Even if you build Free systems within Gmail they are tied to servers you do not own, and to code you cannot hack. You cannot move your own work elsewhere.

Gmail is cool, but if it is ever turned off that will destroy any freedom that people have tried to create on top of it along with terabytes of people’s work. The FSF are very clear about the problems of using Free Software on proprietary systems, and this is a good modern example with great relevance to Free Culture.

I find it disturbing that as both an FSF board member and a CC board member you are using such an emotive and erronious comparison to extol the virtues of proprietary software and creative enclosures.

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By: mattl https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230#comment-14538 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:30:37 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/code_realized.html#comment-14538 At first, when there was no free software, no. As soon as a piece of free software written, it could be used instead of the non-free.

Thanks to that we have now have free software for word processing, for all office applications in fact. We have free software for making games and other software, with complete network stacks and cross platform compilers.

I don’t understand why Second Life is so heavily promoted. Maybe it’s good, but shouldn’t free culture be focusing on freedom?

Proprietary software doesn’t give freedom, it can’t. Second Life might be wonderful, but I find it disheartening that Creative Commons promotes it so heavily. Free Culture should be about creativity and participation without restrictions or borders.

matt lee

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By: lessig https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230#comment-14537 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:57:56 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/code_realized.html#comment-14537 Matti,
Was free software built upon a free software platform?

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By: mattl https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230#comment-14536 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:59:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/code_realized.html#comment-14536 I have to wonder, why an org like Creative Commons is so keen on pushing proprietary software.. I can’t help but feel if I had Microsoft Office and a Second Life mashup tag cloud on my blog, I’d be the darling of the ‘free’ culture world.

Am I the only one who feels free culture ought to be a lot more like free software than it is? We don’t have to accept these compromises, more specifically, Larry, you don’t have to accept them. You’re a very well known guy, you sit on the board of the FSF FFS – please please please try and leverage some of that clout 🙂

You’ll get 10x the love and respect that way.

mattl

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By: Walter Underwood https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3230#comment-14535 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:49:41 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/code_realized.html#comment-14535 This is a perfect tool for stalkers. Verify that someone is working late, then wait for them in the parking lot.

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