Comments on: MediaCon: the internet threat https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182 2002-2015 Wed, 21 May 2003 14:29:16 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Kevin Jordan https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182#comment-1232 Wed, 21 May 2003 14:29:16 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/mediacon_the_internet_threat.html#comment-1232 That’s what I get for posting on an empty stomach. Mmmmm, Subway.

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By: get a clue https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182#comment-1231 Wed, 21 May 2003 03:30:47 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/mediacon_the_internet_threat.html#comment-1231 Clearly some people could use an irony detector. Did you also think Jonathan Swift’s A Modest Proposal was all about the economic, sociological and political benefits of eating babies?

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By: Ry Rivard https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182#comment-1230 Wed, 21 May 2003 00:17:09 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/mediacon_the_internet_threat.html#comment-1230 Oops, it was in jest, but I just got off reading a serious piece about Googlewashing, so the idea didn’t even hit me. So, I stand by (whatever that means) everything except that “Lessig is absolutely right” bit.

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By: mike lawson https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182#comment-1229 Tue, 20 May 2003 19:14:26 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/mediacon_the_internet_threat.html#comment-1229 D chalmers….good god…i was thinging the exact same thing..guys, the post is in jest…..lolol

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By: d chalmers https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182#comment-1228 Tue, 20 May 2003 05:04:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/mediacon_the_internet_threat.html#comment-1228 Ahm. I think some commentators might be missing the facetious tone of the Prof’s post?

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By: Ry Rivard https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182#comment-1227 Tue, 20 May 2003 00:53:58 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/mediacon_the_internet_threat.html#comment-1227 Lessig is absolutely right. Even with Jayson Blair and the potentially botched Jessica Lynch story, not to mention Judith Miller’s military-reviewed, military-given story, I’d rather get my news from the one New York Times than dozens of weblogs.

Anyone who says the difference is shrinking is fooling themselves, because most weblogs–hey, even my own–take Times et al stories and manipulate them to prove their ideology, right or wrong. The argument can be made that Times et al is advancing their own ideology (Augusta is just an obvious example), but we are still getting news from trained people who are at the scene talking to the newsmakers, and at very least the story isn’t tainted by another layer of a blogger’s ideology, even if the blogist knows what they are talking about, though it’s a given that most–hey, even me–are out of their league.

I think the great thing about the blog-olution is that expert people, like Glenn Reynolds and Mickey Kause can be more Johnny on the spot with their criticism of the news sources, not that they can become news sources.

Thus, Google, being the sentinel of the web, should always put the news before the carrion and their critiques.

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By: jj https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182#comment-1226 Mon, 19 May 2003 23:13:54 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/mediacon_the_internet_threat.html#comment-1226 *chuckle*

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By: Kevin Jordan https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182#comment-1225 Mon, 19 May 2003 11:33:42 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/mediacon_the_internet_threat.html#comment-1225 “Incs.” likely refers to incorporated news sites — people who get paid to bring the news to the masses. Contrast that with a personal diary site which might mention news but would then probably litter it with opinion. While I agree with Prof. Lessig’s argument, I feel the difference between the two is shrinking. Incs. are taking many more liberties these days (under the auspices of differentiation, no doubt), letting opinions season the news instead of just reciting the facts.

Why I’d want that any more than I’d want the sandwich artists at Subway to choose my toppings is beyond me. Provide the sandwich and I’ll decide how I’d like it to taste today, please.

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By: David Moynihan https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182#comment-1224 Mon, 19 May 2003 05:42:48 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/mediacon_the_internet_threat.html#comment-1224 Reply Memos (from parts all over):

Things to ignore:

1) That Pathfinder investment. We can recoup.
2) The $300 million we dropped into Barnes & Noble.com — that’ll make it back!
3) Pointcast.
4) The way our share prices since 1998 have outperformed asbestos manufacturers, but lag well behind tobacco stocks.
5) Our debt levels.
6) Our declining revenues in core businesses (Magazines, Theme Parks).
7) The way the only media companies to show any growth (NWS and VIA) are led by 70-somethings, with the offspring of at least one of those execs (Murdoch), certifiable as idiot.
8) Our disastrous mergers with tech companies (AOL, Infoseek) that have left our boards reeling and shareholders considering a revolt should we ever try that noise again.
9) All is well! All is well!

(Aside: It’s very important to keep fighting here, but the opposition is hardly capable of building a new city of Enki. One of the great things about having a predictable opposition is you always kinda know what they’re gonna do next.)

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By: toph https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2182#comment-1223 Sun, 18 May 2003 22:25:50 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2003/05/mediacon_the_internet_threat.html#comment-1223 Thought Google was going to make a blog ghetto to fix that threat.

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