Comments on: How can you promote marriage equality? https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2981 2002-2015 Thu, 09 Jun 2005 15:14:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: Kirsten Chevalier https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2981#comment-10688 Thu, 09 Jun 2005 15:14:11 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/06/how_can_you_promote_marriage_e.html#comment-10688 Marc Perkel: Ignoring the question of whether being queer is a birth defect, do you think that heterosexuals who are biologically unable to have children should be allowed to marry? If so, how does that fit into your argument about queer people not fitting into the framework of procreation and reproduction?

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By: DMY https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2981#comment-10687 Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:45:55 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/06/how_can_you_promote_marriage_e.html#comment-10687 Marc Perkel said:

“The reason I oppose gay marriage is because being gay is a birth defect.”

Do you know something that even the research scientist haven’t been able to prove yet?

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By: Peter Rock https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2981#comment-10686 Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:26:45 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/06/how_can_you_promote_marriage_e.html#comment-10686 Marc Perkel said:

The reason I oppose gay marriage is because being gay is a birth defect.

This makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you please explain what you mean?

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By: Marc Perkel https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2981#comment-10685 Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:26:59 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/06/how_can_you_promote_marriage_e.html#comment-10685 I appreciate the prosion of gays wanting to be married but I just can’t support it because it ignores reality.

Before I get flamed – I do support civil unions that would be legally equivelent to marriage.

The reason I oppose gay marriage is because being gay is a birth defect. It isn’t normal. However it isn’t seriously abnormal. But every human on earth (so far) comes from a male biological father and a female biological mother. To ignore that in the definition of marriage is to ignore why we exist. It is to ignore reproduction and evolution itself.

In my mind if we redefine marriage to include same sex then why not include Mormon poligimist couples, many of whom have children with multiple wives. Logically if we stretch marriage then this is logically in between marriage today and same sex marriage.

Blind people should have the same civil rights as sighed people. But it doesn’t make blindness normal. and I’m not willing to change the definition of not blind so blind people can feel better about themselves. But – there does need to be good civil union laws to accomodate the civil rights of gays.

And – because the left ignored this reality e are still stuck with Bush as president. I personally resent the fact that there were 11 states where marriage protecting was on the ballot turning out Bush supporters and now all of us are stuck with Bush for 4 more years over an issue that quite frankly – they are right and we are wrong on.

There are a lot bigger issues politically to invest our political capital on. Gays aren’t as oppressed as women or blacks. There’s the war, the deficit, the enslavement of America by Christian Dominionists to name a few.

Loose the name marriage and I’ll support it. Until then – I can’t ignore reality. If I were king I’d move the line the other way to make marriage more exclusive to couples with children.

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By: Alexis https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2981#comment-10684 Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:06:30 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/06/how_can_you_promote_marriage_e.html#comment-10684 I believe that if a state is going to enact marriage equality, it should do it for the right reason, and that reason is not a commercial one. I think this is a general problem with Dean (seemingly increasingly common) device of using commercial incentives to achieve noncommercial ends — it may be effective, but it obscures the real point involved.

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By: DMY https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2981#comment-10683 Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:21:40 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/06/how_can_you_promote_marriage_e.html#comment-10683 Here’s what I’m for. Remove all legislation which speaks to the topic, either pro or con. Marriage is a religious ceremony so the govenment should leave it alone.

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By: ACS https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2981#comment-10682 Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:11:48 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/06/how_can_you_promote_marriage_e.html#comment-10682 Yes above, this is but a single tune.

If I were to play it would be all men and women should be free to do as they wish and only themselves and the legal empowerment of others (re marriage etc) would limit this.

Anyway, Is anyone else freaking out about Grokster??

US Amici is very interesting – dont change law, dont re-interpret, just get more concise about what was actually said.

PS – When should any person decide the rights of another? Answer:- when they get elected.

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By: anonymous https://archives.lessig.org/?p=2981#comment-10681 Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:19:33 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/06/how_can_you_promote_marriage_e.html#comment-10681 This guest blog dances to but a single tune.

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