Comments on: On Clinton and lobbyists https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424 2002-2015 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:52:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: raffyman https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424#comment-22415 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:52:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/08/on_clinton_and_lobbyists.html#comment-22415 How about the energy industry? Lobby for permission to dump more crap into the environment – or the pork industry? I’m sure the people of the latest targeted community are going to be so appreciative of all the new money brought in by that new pig farm they arent going to mind at all the perpeptual ofactory assault from being downwind of a Million gallon “lagoon” of pig shit. The lobbyists responsible for increasing the limits on solid particulate emissions from these places or, better still, getting massive volumes of pig shit removed from the list of things considered “toxic waste” – those folks are just completely working for those “average” pork consumers right? Because they’re hte ones who have to live near these places and will struggle with the lowered property values and indoor alerts. You can bet the people profiting most from those laws never have to deal with the stink of pigshit… unless they happen to drive by a farm on their way to the airport.

]]> By: Justin https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424#comment-22414 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:30:25 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/08/on_clinton_and_lobbyists.html#comment-22414 I am not sure about Hillary’s chances right now, I think Oprah’s support for Obama really hurt her it bit strongly into her women support and consolidated all blacks for Obama. I think one of the best trackers for elections is the gambling line as people will only put money on what they think will win, I have watched the line on Clinton drop steadily for the past weeks since Oprah began campaigning for Obama lines are at wagerweb.com Politics Betting I prefer following these lines to polls as I feel they are just as accurate if not more

]]> By: maiden https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424#comment-22413 Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:59:40 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/08/on_clinton_and_lobbyists.html#comment-22413 I am an “average” American. I go to work, try to pay my bills on time, look after my grandkids when needed, try to get some quality time in with my hubby, read, write and surf the net. I have never met a lobbyist. I don’t know any one who ever has met a lobbyist. I don’t belong to any organzations (that I know of) who engage in doing business with the government or anyone else via a lobbyist. I live in a working class neighborhood with working class concerns. Most of the people I live are around are too busy being drained by their jobs too be politically active. On Sunday most of them stay home all day and relax…probably watching tv doing laundry, and cooking. However, I don’t know anyone who wants to give up their freedoms to speak, to watch what they want, to be at peace with the rest of the world. No one I know believes that out of the four people who represent them in the federal government that any really care about the heavy burdens of this economy on we feel on our backs!
To date, I haven’t found a website that reaches down out of the towering pillars of intellectual discussion to reach the “average” Amercian. And to be perfectly honest, I love the fact that intellectuals still exist and have not been snuffed out by those who detest people that think and speak what they think in an effort to resist domination and control by self serving power mongers whoever and wherever they are.
My point…The “average” American must be mobilized, because…intellectuals cannot reverse the trend of corporate domination over government, and over the governance of people, rather than “by the people” All Alone. We need a breakthrough. I don’t see it being Obama, Clinton, or any other “runner”. They may slow the tide, but they won’t reverse the damages, they will simply tow the line.
Hope I didn’t take up too much of your time…I’m just an average Amrican with above average concerns!
maiden..the USA

]]> By: Lawyer https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424#comment-22412 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:48:54 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/08/on_clinton_and_lobbyists.html#comment-22412 When ATT lobbies Congress, it represents 302,000 employees and millions of direct shareholders or indirect shareholders through mutual funds, pensions and annuities.

]]> By: Guess https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424#comment-22411 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:03:51 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/08/on_clinton_and_lobbyists.html#comment-22411 My hope would be to cap campaign contributions at a level that would be reasonable to expect of the average American. This would, hopefully, diminish the influence of ‘Pioneers’ and other campaign cash bundlers.

]]> By: Christopher J. Bradley https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424#comment-22410 Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:21:40 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/08/on_clinton_and_lobbyists.html#comment-22410 Dear Mr. Lessig,
It appals me to think that we might even consider electing a white woman from the South to the office of president of the United States. It would be like instituting the same sort of gentrification and slavery re-enactment of pre-civil war decision making. She is not black, the black people of the world should not support her. She is nothing but an Uncle Tom to these people. and has no place in politics for having claimed she is Black or in any way controls the Black Vote.
Here’s something else to consider. I am not black and would prefer to see Barack Obama as president. Here’s why: He’s a man, he’s from the Chicago area political machine, and knows what it takes to call shots, and he will work with high technologies people to make a difference. It is proven, just by things like his “Ring Tone” campaign, which while not that technically advanced, is quite complex, and proves his interest in at least joking around with Netizens.
Hillary Clinton does not care about the net, she is from the old school, the kind of Old School white mafia that had Kennedy Killed out of spite, and I don’t care much for the spam she keeps sending to my e-mail either. Its a complete disrespect to all of us, especially when she responds to few or none of her New York constituents, except when elections are at stake.
Personally I hope this 2k8 election swallows her whole.

Christopher J. Bradley
NEW YORKER.

]]> By: edward https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424#comment-22409 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:14:17 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/08/on_clinton_and_lobbyists.html#comment-22409 What’s Next after Web 2.0?

I do not like those buzz words like Web 2.0, Business 2.0 etc., however in order to communication, you have to conform to their protocols, otherwise they might think you are speaking in a foreign language. So far Web 2.0/Internet 1.0 lead by Youtube, FaceBook, same Amazon, New Yahoo! and New Google is successful, though at not successful as Web 1.0/Internet 0.0 led by Old Yahoo!, Ebay, Amazon and Old Google. Why? Not a big surprise anymore when from Web 1.0/Internet 0.0 to Web 2.0/Internet 1.0 as opposed from nothing to Web 1.0/Internet 0.0.

I believe the next after Web 2.0/Internet 1.0 is Web 3.0/Internet 2.0, however we’d better to call it Internet 2.0, since at that time, Web is not that important any more. Why?

Web 1.0/Internet 0.0 – Informed, you as a reader

Web 2.0/Internet 1.0 – Inform, you as a writer

Internet 2.0 (as opposed as Web 3.0/Internet 2.0) – formation of Information, you as a reader, writer, and much more

– BTW I am writing this post while I am watching a lecture C++0x (yes, C++0x) on at Univ. of Waterloo made by Prof. Bjarne Stroustrup – Prof. Stroustrup, think about C++ 3.0, borrow somthing nice from Ruby, the world is way too different now as opposed to 1980s

Frontier Space – http://www.hwswworld.com/space
Frontier Blog – http://www.hwswworld.com/wp

]]> By: Abigail Brown https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424#comment-22408 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:10:30 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/08/on_clinton_and_lobbyists.html#comment-22408 I wish the whole dialogue about political fundraising were turned on its head. There are two ways to reduce corporate influence in politics–restrict their money flow or drown it. Public financing of elections restricts it. Instead, I wish that the practice of individual political donations were more widespread and incorporated into our concept of responsible citizenship. Making a donation–of any size–is a way of communicating with a politician. It is one of the few avenues available to the “common” citizen between votes. I try to make a practice of donating $10-50 anytime a politician or candidate says or does something I particularly admire and donate to his/her rival if they do something particularly abhorent.

]]> By: poptones https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424#comment-22407 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:17:05 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/08/on_clinton_and_lobbyists.html#comment-22407 What are you talking about? The insurance industry is a “service” industry – it produces NOTHING AT ALL except wealth for shareholders. The health care industry at least has an ideal of helping people – even if most of that industry now is so closely tied to the parastic insurance industry the lines have become utterly invisible.

The fact that a tenth of americans are employed in such utterly worthless industries is just another sign of how nearly worthless our entire culture has become.

]]> By: Jardinero1 https://archives.lessig.org/?p=3424#comment-22406 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 05:04:09 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/08/on_clinton_and_lobbyists.html#comment-22406 I work in the insurance industry and my wife in the medical industry. I live in Houston and many of my clients work in the energy industry. I disagree with your entire anger ridden assesment. Together those industries and their affiliates employ better than a tenth of all Americans. We only produce what people want to consume. Don’t buy it if you don’t like it.

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